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I don't agree. The biggest security threat to Europe is the country/counties sending arms and money to Ukraine. Once these votes take place in the Eastern region and become a part of the Russian Federation an attack on that will be an act of war. I imagine the MIC will love that. Ukraine reclaims some cow pasture of no significance and the MSM sees this as great victories for the West.
Only Putin and his lackeys believe that. Nobody even recognizes Crimea. Its an absolutely moronic argument made by the desperate Russian government. They clearly expect to continue to lose more land soon. They don't even control 100% of any of the 4 oblasts. Ukraine has regained a small part of Luhansk and still has half of Donetsk and significant parts of the other two.
I don't agree. The biggest security threat to Europe is the country/counties sending arms and money to Ukraine. Once these votes take place in the Eastern region and become a part of the Russian Federation an attack on that will be an act of war. I imagine the MIC will love that. Ukraine reclaims some cow pasture of no significance and the MSM sees this as great victories for the West.
It is significant because it has 20,000 Russian troops in it and none of them have Ukrainian passports.
Even if the action you describe were seen as an act of war, there is still nothing Putin could do.
He has been checkmated. From this time til he is gone there will be almost nothing but steady losses for Russia. Even a missile launched is a loss because it cannot be re-manufactured and replaced. Tanks, aircraft, generals, troops, money... All gone. And nothing in the future but a diminished Russia too poor to operate a significant navy.
It is significant because it has 20,000 Russian troops in it and none of them have Ukrainian passports.
Even if the action you describe were seen as an act of war, there is still nothing Putin could do.
He has been checkmated. From this time til he is gone there will be almost nothing but steady losses for Russia. Even a missile launched is a loss because it cannot be re-manufactured and replaced. Tanks, aircraft, generals, troops, money... All gone. And nothing in the future but a diminished Russia too poor to operate a significant navy.
Some new videos are floating around of alleged Chinese equipment moving through occupied areas of Ukraine. It could be fake or it could be something. Mostly lightly armored vehicles, humvee looking things but smaller, not tanks. It wouldn't surprise me at all if China is selling military equipment to Putin. That would be something of a game changer if China is going to start helping Putin's fledgling war machine directly, and something the US intelligence community as expressed concern over.
I don't agree. The biggest security threat to Europe is the country/counties sending arms and money to Ukraine. Once these votes take place in the Eastern region and become a part of the Russian Federation an attack on that will be an act of war. I imagine the MIC will love that. Ukraine reclaims some cow pasture of no significance and the MSM sees this as great victories for the West.
Votes schmotes ...you really believe that BS?.....
I've got some nice swampland in Florida ...for you half price...
Trust me....Russia is done in Ukraine....bye bye Russia ...stick a fork in it
I don't agree. The biggest security threat to Europe is the country/counties sending arms and money to Ukraine. Once these votes take place in the Eastern region and become a part of the Russian Federation an attack on that will be an act of war. I imagine the MIC will love that. Ukraine reclaims some cow pasture of no significance and the MSM sees this as great victories for the West.
Act of war? What are you talking about? There already is a war, invading Ukraine was a really serious act of war.
And for the record, Ukraine has already attacked occupied Crimea and Russia hasn't escalated, because they can't. If Russia were to escalate the Russian state as we know it today would be done and millions may die. Russia is failing in Ukraine, you think they can take on NATO? Come on man. There is no possible positive outcome for Russia if they escalate.
This sham vote stinks of desperation on Russia's part and will change nothing.
Now is the time for cooler heads. Ukraine cannot defeat Russia. They should be happy if Vlad lets them have access to the Black Sea via Odessa. Say goodbye to the East.
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Originally Posted by lancers
Once these votes take place in the Eastern region and become a part of the Russian Federation an attack on that will be an act of war.
There are two armies trying to kill each other, there is nothing magical that happens when a sham referendum passes for an area that isn't even completely controlled by either side that makes it more of a war. War++?
Well, the sooner the whole thing is resolved, the sooner the money the West is pouring into the war machine can be applied instead to rebuilding Ukraine. Z will be back to his begging bowl circuit as soon as the war is over, asking the West to finance the reconstruction.
Something of a moot point. You can't rebuild absolutely shelled/bombed out places like Mariupol unless you take them back. I think the most the Ukrainians would accept is a return to pre 2022 invasion lines of control, which I believe they were trying to negotiate for at the start of this thing. You can knock Z all you want, but his war-time leadership has been Churchillian.
Some new videos are floating around of alleged Chinese equipment moving through occupied areas of Ukraine. It could be fake or it could be something. Mostly lightly armored vehicles, humvee looking things but smaller, not tanks. It wouldn't surprise me at all if China is selling military equipment to Putin. That would be something of a game changer if China is going to start helping Putin's fledgling war machine directly, and something the US intelligence community as expressed concern over.
Doncha think you ought to post links to these videos of "Chinese equipment rolling through Ukraine"?
'Cuz, so far, I think it's nonsense. China sells $500B a year in "stuff" to the US. We'd all like to see pictures of the equipment they are willing to provide that would put it at risk.
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