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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 198 39.52%
No 254 50.70%
Unsure 49 9.78%
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Old 05-01-2024, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Looks to me like The West is gonna collapse before the Russkies. Pootie and the crew are just fine slow walking this thing while they watch us go BK. Mo money just not for you.
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Old 05-01-2024, 04:48 PM
 
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Military hardware on display.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-68934205
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Old 05-01-2024, 07:52 PM
 
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Thank you for taking time to explain more of the background to the story.

You are more than welcome.

I think it's an important page of this war, that one should be aware of.
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Old 05-01-2024, 08:39 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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If we truly have "democracy" it should be up to we the people, not the military industrial complex that propagandizes people.

So, I guess US aid is about making the MIC richer at the expense of Ukraine, if Russia will collapse win or lose. You make the US sound so evil.
  • You know perfectly well we don't have a democracy.
  • Besides, most people are in favor of Ukrainian aide - or so says Gallup (LINK).
  • I don't care how rich the MIC is; I really don't. They are in the business of keeping American enemies at bay, and are doing a good job of it. I'd rather have the MIC than not have the MIC.
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Old 05-02-2024, 07:39 AM
 
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More in detail on why US heavy armour is not applicable to Ukraine

https://t.me/yurasumy/14988
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Old 05-02-2024, 07:49 AM
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We all know how this conflict is going to end. Russia will get most of the Donbas Region, keeps Crimea. All troops will be withdrawn, Ukraine gets a security guarantee (but no membership) from NATO.



That's all folks.
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Old 05-02-2024, 08:13 AM
 
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The Ukrainian front is starting to crumble. The Russians have made large gains in the last few weeks, taking advantage of Ukraine's desperate manpower shortage, mass surrenders (including "negotiated" surrenders), and disorganized routs and retreats. At this point, more money and weapons won't help. Only more boots on the ground will. Even then, it is probably too late.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/01/europ...ntl/index.html
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Old 05-02-2024, 08:16 AM
 
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The Ukrainian front is starting to crumble. The Russians have made large gains in the last few weeks, taking advantage of Ukraine's desperate manpower shortage, mass surrenders (including "negotiated" surrenders), and disorganized routs and retreats. At this point, more money and weapons won't help. Only more boots on the ground will. Even then, it is probably too late.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/01/europ...ntl/index.html

Poland is ready, France is ready, all we need now is the 82nd Airborne to get this WWIII show underway!


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Old 05-02-2024, 08:21 AM
 
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More in detail on why US heavy armour is not applicable to Ukraine

https://t.me/yurasumy/14988
Yes, the West certainly does not like their captured "vaunted" weapons on display in Russia. A good advertisement of what kind of weapons NOT to get when fighting Russia. The MIC certainly does not need that kind of advertising, especially when enormous money had been spent developing them, only to find out how ineffective they are, at least against Russia.
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Old 05-02-2024, 08:23 AM
 
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Poland is ready, France is ready, all we need now is the 82nd Airborne to get this WWIII show underway!

Yes, definitely ready, with plenty of nukes thrown in to end our civilization.
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