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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 200 39.76%
No 254 50.50%
Unsure 49 9.74%
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Old 05-31-2024, 06:15 PM
 
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China would be very upset at Russia creating space junk
Yeah, that's China's job.

https://www.nationaldefensemagazine....tellite-debris
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Old 05-31-2024, 06:23 PM
 
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Russia is fortunate to have a large underclass for their harvesting…

https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1796650952604455373

More of Ukrainian propaganda nonsense.

Russians don't grab anyone on the streets, shoving them in the unmarked cars, as Ukronazi do.

These Caucasians in the picture received notifications to serve in the army; the rest - what they did next, and what chances they wanted to take ( or not,) was up to them.

If they live in those autonomous republics, this doesn't mean that they shouldn't serve in the army ( if called) - they should, in the same manner as ethnic Russians.


See, the problem with the Nazi regime in Ukraine is that not everyone was supporting it from the get-go - far away from it. There were plenty of people in Ukraine that were simply putting up with it, not wanting/not being capable to move abroad or whatnot.

So those that were enthusiastic about that regime, volunteered in the first days of war.

By now THOSE people are mostly dead, and since the regime is hoping to survive, now it starts throwing EVERYONE in the meet grinder - those unwilling to fight, the disabled, those disillusioned with the West and their own government and so on.

It's sort of like when Hitler was already about to lose the war, he was sending to their death everyone, starting from teenagers of Hitlerjugend.

Meanwhile, this is what's going on in Ukraine in this respect;


"It is reported that Zelensky’s office abandoned the idea of ​​“exemption on economic ground” because the General Staff was categorically against it. The military believes that such a step will lead to a shortage of people at the front lines, and will cause a negative reaction in the army and society. The office hopes to plug the hole in the budget, which could be replenished through a legal payoff to avoid mobilization, and with the help of new tax increases.


However, at the same time, the General Staff reviewed and approved a letter from the Ministry of Economy on the exempt of employees of the private beer company "Carlsberg Ukraine" with a 16-page long list of those exempt from the military service. This shows that the exemption oddities continue. It’s just that the chains of corruption in the General Staff decided to close the loop on themselves.


The Poltava military registration and enlistment office threatened that even those men who updated their data but did not take their military ID with them while out and about, could receive a fine of 25 thousand grivnas. The “Reserve+” application or confirmation from the administrative services center about updating data will not save you from a fine.
For some reason, the Poltava military commissar did not say that fines would be imposed only from July 18. And the Ministry of Defense promises that by that time “Reserve+” will have a QR code, and this will equate it to an electronic military registration document.
They are going to fine not only men, but also women liable for military service. Women of certain professions, in particular doctors and pharmacists from 18 to 60 years old, must register with the military and update their personal data at the military registration and enlistment office. Otherwise, they will be fined as mobilization evaders. Although mobilization for women is entirely voluntary. At least for now.

Big problems await Ukrainian young men who live and study abroad. When they turn 17, they will receive summonses to register for military service. This cannot be done remotely; they will have to return to Ukraine. Let me remind you that currently no one is allowed to leave Ukraine from the age of 18. So it’s unlikely that many guys will be interested in such a prospect ( so they won't return to Ukraine.)

Meanwhile, people continue to flee and die. Four men were detained while trying to swim across the Tisa. They paid $4,000 each for the “service” of transporting them to Romania, but received only two children’s inflatable rings and the instruction: “Tisa is over there.” And the body of another drowned man washed up on the Romanian bank of the river - already the tenth since the beginning of May.

But the military registration and enlistment office is trying to get people even from the other world. Sports journalist Artyom Frankov, who died seven months ago, already received summons in April. There was a big fuss about this back then. However, the military registration and enlistment office decided not to stop there and now sent the deceased two more summons to undergo a military medical commission. During his lifetime, the journalist had severe myopia and was clearly in poor health, which is why he died. But apparently the army really needs people.
The Kyiv metro will increase train intervals. The reason is the lack of people due to emigration and mobilization. 7% of metro employees were drafted into the Armed Forces of Ukraine. 83 vacancies for electric train drivers are open, dozens of mechanics, turners, electricians and other specialists are required. And there is nowhere to take them from.

But there are also achievements. A gay pride parade was announced for June 16 in Kyiv. The previous LGBT march took place back in 2021. For safety reasons, it will be held in the metro and the number of participants will be limited to a maximum of 500 people.
I wonder if employees of the military registration and enlistment office come to the event, will they run away from them or will they be welcomed as full participants?
That's the news scoop up for the 30ieth of May in Ukraine."


https://t.me/olegtsarov/12611



So tell me again now, how "horrible this would be for Ukrainians to live under Russia."

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Old 05-31-2024, 06:55 PM
 
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Just for clarification, not a single legally drafted conscript is allowed to participate in SMO. It's volunteers and contracted soldiers ONLY. Russian government is very opposed to announce mobilization for SMO needs. That's fighting with one hand tied behind, considering that fight is against the combined West. Not doing too shabby, actually.
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Old 05-31-2024, 08:10 PM
 
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Oh look! A low life who lives on the internet!
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Old 05-31-2024, 09:32 PM
 
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Just for clarification, not a single legally drafted conscript is allowed to participate in SMO. It's volunteers and contracted soldiers ONLY. Russian government is very opposed to announce mobilization for SMO needs. That's fighting with one hand tied behind, considering that fight is against the combined West. Not doing too shabby, actually.
Laughable. Absolutely laughable that anyone actually believes that.
Over 1 million draft age men have left Russia. And you are telling us they left for no reason? They would never have been sent to Ukraine, anyway?....
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Old 06-01-2024, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Mr. Z showing some moves. His best move however was picking your pocket.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywdrLaTmE3U
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Old 06-01-2024, 07:21 AM
 
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500,000 thousand dead Ukrainians, for what? Absolutely nothing.

We already knew that Ukraine joining NATO was an absolute red line.

As if Russia would just give up their major Black Sea port and let ethnic Russians in Donbas, Donetsk, and Luhansk fend for themselves as they are killed by Ukrainians?

It’s already been reported many, many times that not many actual Russians are being killed. The ones that are being killed on the front lines are mostly Siberians and other ethnic minorities. These are conscripts fighting against their will.

The economic sanctions against Russia were useless as China, India, and many other countries refused to join the sanctions.

It is obvious that the Biden Administration knew this war couldn’t be won. If their reasoning is that they did it for the economy, pump all that money into defense contractors, how evil must one be to want to do that?

The people running the US right now are either incompetent or evil. There just isn’t any other conclusion to come to.

Since I think people like Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinken are intelligent, then the only choice left is that they are evil personified.
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Old 06-01-2024, 01:52 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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500,000 thousand dead Ukrainians, for what? Absolutely nothing.

We already knew that Ukraine joining NATO was an absolute red line.

As if Russia would just give up their major Black Sea port and let ethnic Russians in Donbas, Donetsk, and Luhansk fend for themselves as they are killed by Ukrainians?

It’s already been reported many, many times that not many actual Russians are being killed. The ones that are being killed on the front lines are mostly Siberians and other ethnic minorities. These are conscripts fighting against their will.

The economic sanctions against Russia were useless as China, India, and many other countries refused to join the sanctions.

It is obvious that the Biden Administration knew this war couldn’t be won. If their reasoning is that they did it for the economy, pump all that money into defense contractors, how evil must one be to want to do that?

The people running the US right now are either incompetent or evil. There just isn’t any other conclusion to come to.

Since I think people like Jake Sullivan and Tony Blinken are intelligent, then the only choice left is that they are evil personified.
Your post is filled with baseless media generated talking points.

  • I've never even heard the figure "500,000 dead Ukrainians". There was little danger of Ukraine joining NATO before the Russian invasion.
  • The US has never been in a position to dictate who joins. In fact, there used to be talk of the US withdrawing from NATO, an action that will now not happen thanks to Russian stupidity.
  • Russia has been kicked out of their "Black Sea port". They are not in a position to "give it up". It's no longer safe.
  • Sanctions are killing Russia. They have lost a huge portion of their non-military economic activity.

Oil and Gas revenue:
  • Figures for gas and oil sales in 2024 represent a 45% fall from the same period before the war. That is obviously an absolute disaster for the country which relied so heavily on those sales.
  • Oil and Gas sales in 2024 will be around 11,000B rubles, as compared to 25,286B in 2021.
The sole source of growth to the Russian economy is war materiel, which is being paid for by the Russian treasury. If the war stops tomorrow, the Russian economy will stop, too, since sanctions prevent Russian companies from engaging in any meaningful level of export.
The bottom line is, any "growth" in the Russian economy is reflective of the Russian treasury being depleted - a treasury that will never be replaced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAGTuiLvciE&t=117s
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Old 06-01-2024, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Durham NC
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Totally brainwashed and gaslighted in the extreme.
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Old 06-01-2024, 04:04 PM
 
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More of Ukrainian propaganda nonsense.

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So tell me again now, how "horrible this would be for Ukrainians to live under Russia."
Well you can read it for yourself in Russian state media what the plan is…

https://ria.ru/20220403/ukraina-1781469605.html

https://medium.com/@kravchenko_mm/wh...st-a3e92e3cb64

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_R...o_with_Ukraine

Complete cultural genocide, and if needed physical genocide.

A “Nazi” according to the Russian definition, is a Ukrainian who refuses to admit being a Russian.

The plan involves subjecting the whole population to generational trauma, filtration camps, 30 years of re-education by terror, elimination of anything called Ukraine, replaced with “republics” without sovereignty.
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