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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
Unsure 49 9.72%
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Old 04-24-2024, 11:42 AM
 
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Luckily Moldova has removed its dependence on Russian gas…

https://ecfr.eu/article/the-final-fr...n-russian-gas/

The final frontier: Ending Moldova’s dependency on Russian gas
Over the past year, Moldova has rid itself of Russian gas supplies. But it still receives electricity from the Russian-sponsored breakaway region of Transnistria. Ending this final dependency would bolster Moldova’s security – and Europe’s
It's been frankly uplifting to see how a lot of European nations are engaging in energy independence projects with the up-front, said-in-public rationale of not wanting to be dependent on Russian resources again. Hard lesson, well learned.
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Old 04-24-2024, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Longer range missiles sent to Ukraine earlier this month, reaching up to 200 miles. Can reach Russian troop lines deeper

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/polit...ine/index.html
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Old 04-24-2024, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Longer range missiles sent to Ukraine earlier this month, reaching up to 200 miles. Can reach Russian troop lines deeper

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/24/polit...ine/index.html


shoulda been done long ago..but...
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Old 04-24-2024, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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we're sending 60 'military advisors' also..ramp it up...it's now or never..
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Old 04-24-2024, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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1,000+ long-range ATACMS (300km+) allocated for Ukraine are in Europe for over a month already.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...44547443716524
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Old 04-24-2024, 02:16 PM
 
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we're sending 60 'military advisors' also..ramp it up...it's now or never..
Yes, let's push those Ruskies out ....once and for all....
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Old 04-24-2024, 03:04 PM
 
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So you're saying Ukraine collapses by the end of Summer and NATO joining the fight.

Which is it? They're pretty mutually exclusive.

I think someone is feeding you bad info about NATO getting involved.
No, reread when I posted these. To me, it looks like Ukraine will collapse by the end of summer. Then later I read a couple of articles from warnews247 which said that NATO is planning to enter the fight. That was not my prediction. I simply posted what warnews247 said. I simply wanted people to read that and to see what they think about it.

Also, the two scenarios are not mutually exclusive. Ukraine could collapse and then NATO forces or individual countries could enter the fight.

The reason I posted the information from warnews247 is that their information goes against the grain of what I had been researching. Certainly, this information could be false.
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Old 04-24-2024, 04:06 PM
 
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No, reread when I posted these. To me, it looks like Ukraine will collapse by the end of summer. Then later I read a couple of articles from warnews247 which said that NATO is planning to enter the fight. That was not my prediction. I simply posted what warnews247 said. I simply wanted people to read that and to see what they think about it.

Also, the two scenarios are not mutually exclusive. Ukraine could collapse and then NATO forces or individual countries could enter the fight.

The reason I posted the information from warnews247 is that their information goes against the grain of what I had been researching. Certainly, this information could be false.
Both is bs. With additional weapons that about to supplied, Ukraine will likely to go on offensive with F16 being able to support the troops by summer. Also, it's highly, highly unlikely that NATO will join the fight.
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Old 04-24-2024, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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if Ukraine falls, it will be within the next few weeks or months..after that, the rooskies don't stand a chance..even though the west has been dragging it's feet on supply for Ukraine and Russia has caught up technologically a little bit (they now have drone recon ability to see far behind the Ukes front lines, and also the FAB 500/1500 glide bombs they have recently come up with), they still will lose this war because they don't have the heart or reason like Ukraine does..stick around..you'll see..
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Old 04-24-2024, 04:14 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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If Russia leaves Ukraine how would that destroy Russia?
If Russia leaves Ukraine that means Russia loses Crimea. That, in itself, will not destroy Russia, but it sure would shoot them in the foot. They would have limited means to export goods through the Black Sea and the Black Sea Fleet would remain only a fraction of what it was.


Without a warm water port, Russia could not project the power it does today. Sevastopol means power to Russia, not only in The Black Sea, but throughout the Mediterranean.
Contrast that with The US, who has warm water ports on both the Atlantic and the Pacific.
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