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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 201 39.88%
No 254 50.40%
Unsure 49 9.72%
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Old 04-24-2023, 08:42 PM
 
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Any time someone mentions Odessa, don't forget people, burnt alive and shot to death in the Unions Building. 2014.



Very graphic article


https://pantv.livejournal.com/1498901.html


Deutche Welle report:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOM0YFYidhU
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Old 04-24-2023, 08:43 PM
 
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hand raised high over here..count me in..I'm ready to see those reds on the run..



Who's "reds"? You are about 30 years behind...
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Old 04-24-2023, 08:44 PM
 
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Any NATO groupies still living in the fantasy of the Ukraine actually winning this war?
It's nice to have a fantasy. Makes you feel so much better. Reality twisted to accommodate your fondest dreams and desires.
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Old 04-24-2023, 08:49 PM
 
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It's nice to have a fantasy. Makes you feel so much better. Reality twisted to accommodate your fondest dreams and desires.



Can't agree more. You referring to the Ukraine winning the war fantasy, right?
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Old 04-24-2023, 09:02 PM
 
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hand raised high over here..count me in..I'm ready to see those reds on the run..
In case you didn't get the memo: The Soviet Union ceased to exist on December 26, 1991.
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Old 04-24-2023, 09:14 PM
 
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Baltic countries: Russia is an existential threat to us. Russian state media openly states that they will attack the Baltic States when they are done with Ukraine.


https://youtu.be/WZAsPIIaB8Y
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Old 04-24-2023, 09:31 PM
 
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Can't agree more. You referring to the Ukraine winning the war fantasy, right?
Yes, I am. But we all have our own fantasies and consciences to live with. A kaleidoscope and whirlwinds of thoughts for every participant that will end either on the scrap heap of broken dreams or their realization. With one side starting to flounder with increasing desperation in the appalling loss of personnel and materiel and their continual postponements of counteroffensives, while the other side holding back the majority of its troops and "merely" destroying its opponent's power infrastructure through the use of missiles, some hypersonic, biding its time to strike with its ground troops at the proper time. We each get to choose which side is which.
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Old 04-24-2023, 09:55 PM
 
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Baltic countries: Russia is an existential threat to us. Russian state media openly states that they will attack the Baltic States when they are done with Ukraine.


https://youtu.be/WZAsPIIaB8Y
Actually, we don't have to worry about that. With Russia on the verge of collapse and about to be overrun by a powerful Ukrainian counteroffensive, the Baltic countries won't be touched. So, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia, relax, chill out, grab your popcorn and watch Ukraine steamroll into Donbass and Crimea.

Everything is hunky dory. Those million Russian troops will panic and run home to mama, and those pesky hypersonic missiles will just stop working (they are filled with borsht anyway), and the Russian tank troops will panic, throw away their automatic weapons and surrender to Ukrainian farmers with pitchforks who will tow the captured Russian tanks with tractors to the Ukrainian high command. Actually, the same can be done to the Russian armored personnel carriers too. Who knew that Ukrainian pitchforks are more powerful than Russian submachine guns and grenades? They must be filled with vodka and be unable to fire! Wow! And maybe the Ghost of Kiev will reappear to shoot those Russian missiles and aircraft down like he did a year ago.

So again, Baltic countries, nothing to worry about. Just watch for the Ukrainian flag to be raised over the Kremlin in Moscow and for Putin to bow down before Zelensky. No need to worry when you don't have to!
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Old 04-24-2023, 10:02 PM
 
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Who's "reds"? You are about 30 years behind...
I think they meant fascist brainwashed pigs.
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Old 04-24-2023, 10:55 PM
 
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LOL. Russias issue is that they cant resupply and create weapons faster then NATO can even in a non war economy for NATO. Russia just cant compete. Watch the NATO tanks show up. They alone without Ukraines tanks are a match for all the tanks Russia has left. Russias aviation is going to be their biggest threat I suspect. Which means exposing more irreplaceable aircraft to combat in a much higher risk environment.


Russias big thing? Probably getting weapons made in other third world countries. To Irans credit those drones are pretty cost effective. And their shells don't need to be great quality as their CEP makes it more about shelling cities.


They've started hitting Russian ammo depots wherever they can Ive noticed. Things are about to get nasty.
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