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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 209 40.04%
No 263 50.38%
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Old 04-24-2023, 07:25 AM
 
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Used to be the Russians required someone be able to ‘sound’ native in what they typed before they turned them loose on a social media disinformation campaign- I remember reading a good long format article about that about 4-5 years back. Could be that the Russian brain drain since they started the war has meant their standards for that have had to be lowered.
*shrug* it's a war, there's going to be all the usual stuff like propaganda, attrocities etc.

Most of the propaganda is silly and a waste of time, not convincing anyone nor influencing them so it really is moot.

I judge how the war is going mostly by the amount of crying, whining and threats of nuclear war.
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Old 04-24-2023, 07:45 AM
 
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Biden’s team fears the aftermath of a failed Ukrainian counteroffensive

Behind closed doors, the administration worries about what Ukraine can accomplish.
The Biden administration is quietly preparing for the possibility that if Ukraine’s spring counteroffensive falls short of expectations, critics at home and allies abroad will argue that America has come up short, too.




https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...fense-00093384
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Old 04-24-2023, 07:47 AM
 
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There is nothing "insane" about it. It is basic positional warfare, clone of the WW1 positional warfare down to an hour and single maneuver. Well echeloned, trenched, equipped front line on both sides.


Just keep in mind a valuable lesson from WW1: whoever starts offensive, will suffer 1:10 losses in soldiers. Defending side being ONE.
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Old 04-24-2023, 07:52 AM
 
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Russia has continued to pour resources into strategically unimportant Bakhmut with near imbecilic mindlessness. Ukraine, for its part, has chopped up Russia units to the point of entirely eliminating some of them.
Meanwhile, Ukraine planned the crossing of the Dnipro River and executed their plan. Russia’s position is now ripe for failure and Ukraine will dictate the location of fighting.
Bait and switch has been used by Ukraine to move Russia’s forces, and as a result nearly no Russians were on site to repel the Ukrainians as they crossed the river. The camel's nose is now under the tent.
He is coming in.

Will China help Russia?........ Maybe a little, short term. But because nearly 30% of China's GDP is attached to their own real estate and Chinese population will be falling even faster than Russia's, both these countries are destined to go the way of Portugal, which was once a world power, larger than The Roman Empire. The Ukraine War is a side show to what will happen regardless of the war's outcome.



Actually, no. It's the other way around.
Entire Balhmut is processed by PMCs only. Wagner, then now there appeared some oil company PMC.

FLANKS of Bakhmut are supported by regular Russian military. And, only as of late as before, it was still PMCs.
So no, Russia per se is not pouring resources in mindlessly. Ukraine does, though. For Ukraine, it is primary political card to pull to show to the handlers, GB and US, that their money are used properly and MORE is needed. MORE, MORE, and MORE.

So no, whatever your source is, it's incorrect.
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Old 04-24-2023, 07:56 AM
 
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According to the few hours back source from the Office of President (Z, not B), entire heavy equipment leftovers were pulled out of Bakhmut and only about two brigades are left on the ground. This is caused by change in Russian tactics. Before, their advance was slowed by AFU positioned in 9 story building, thus, having superiority of the "elevated position".
As the result, artillery and air force simply started leveling any severla story building and now, they are targets, not cover. And, every time such building collapses, when manned as fire position, it is 50-100 soldiers 200 and 300.
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Old 04-24-2023, 08:18 AM
 
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No, Ukraine's only chance to prosper is to remain free from Russia, who will never prosper again. Retaining control of Crimea is Russia's only chance at having a future. I have no idea how Ukraine may be able to wrestle control of Crimea away from Russia, but if they manage to do it Russia's future will look like Venezuela.
Russia has been heavily fortifying positions in Crimea, obviously expecting an offensive there. But I don't see why Ukraine needs to invade Crimea; just block off the northern isthmus and blow up one bridge in the east, and Crimea will be isolated.
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Old 04-24-2023, 08:22 AM
 
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Biden’s team fears the aftermath of a failed Ukrainian counteroffensive

Behind closed doors, the administration worries about what Ukraine can accomplish.
The Biden administration is quietly preparing for the possibility that if Ukraine’s spring counteroffensive falls short of expectations, critics at home and allies abroad will argue that America has come up short, too.




https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...fense-00093384



Should have just started with the fighter jets and achieve air superiority in eastern Ukraine. The goal is to defeat Russia and weaken them to the point they don't keep invading neighboring countries just to increase their land area empire.

Or these news pieces could also just be for the Kremlin's eyes - give them a little confidence boost. Then a surprise powerful counteroffensive.
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Old 04-24-2023, 08:30 AM
 
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Russia has been heavily fortifying positions in Crimea, obviously expecting an offensive there. But I don't see why Ukraine needs to invade Crimea; just block off the northern isthmus and blow up one bridge in the east, and Crimea will be isolated.
You're not the first to note this reality.
Historically, taking Crimea has been tough for everyone who has tried. It is surprising that Ukraine was able to just stroll across the Dnipro; no one knows what is going to happen.
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Old 04-24-2023, 09:17 AM
 
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Actually, no. It's the other way around.
Entire Balhmut is processed by PMCs only. Wagner, then now there appeared some oil company PMC.

FLANKS of Bakhmut are supported by regular Russian military. And, only as of late as before, it was still PMCs.
So no, Russia per se is not pouring resources in mindlessly. Ukraine does, though. For Ukraine, it is primary political card to pull to show to the handlers, GB and US, that their money are used properly and MORE is needed. MORE, MORE, and MORE.

So no, whatever your source is, it's incorrect.
You are correct. And there are hundreds of thousands of Russian troops not yet committed to the fight in Ukraine. They are just sitting and waiting (in training mode). Putin is holding them back for some reason. Perhaps to blunt and stop Ukraine's offensive if it ever starts and/or to start the Russian offensive once the weather becomes dry enough for large combat operations by armored and armored infantry forces.

We will see. It's like two gunslingers in the Old West approaching each other in a wet and muddy street as the sun starts to dry it out. Who will draw first and who will win?
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Old 04-24-2023, 09:49 AM
 
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