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Old 03-05-2023, 09:19 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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Article on Russia’s population crisis, their quest for reviving the Russian empire is hastening their decline…

https://www.economist.com/europe/202...get-even-worse
This has been mentioned before as a motive for Putin's actions. He is trying to annex areas in other countries that have Russian ethnic populations. This is regardless of whether they want to be annexed or not.

This includes parts of Ukraine, Georgia and Moldova but also potentially parts of the Baltic States (thus causing WW3) or Central Asia.

This is to make up Russia's population implosion. Perhaps a better way would have been for him to spend more money on the economy, health and education instead of spending every dime on the military, but it is too late for that now.
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Old 03-05-2023, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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This is an extremely interesting stream form Dmitri

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...67506449166336

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Summary of the livestream with Oleksiy Arestovych, former Ukraine’s Presidential Head of Office advisor, Day 374, March 4th.
in the stream

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More Russian partisans may start active resistance against the Kremlin’s regime and may use more drones in Russian territory.

Many people are discontent with the Kremlin’s regime and people wronged by them, including Russians, Tatars, Chechens, Dagestani, etc. The Kremlin knows about the potential for separatist movements and riots in Russia and, therefore, Putin and Medvedev are complaining about…

…separatism and division of Russia among Muscovites, Siberians, etc.
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Old 03-05-2023, 09:22 AM
 
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Bakhmut:
Armed forces spokesman says, ""There is also no mass withdrawal of Ukrainian troops. "There were 21 enemy attacks with the use of various artillery systems and MLRS near Bakhmut alone, and nine combat engagements. One hundred and thirty-one attacks and 38 combat engagements took place on this front in total."


It would not surprise me to see a faked withdrawal with the intention of targeting Russia commanders and gatherings of various sorts.


Putin really put himself in a difficult position. He had no idea Ukraine would put up such a fight.
Sergey Lavrov, Russia's top diplomat, was openly laughed at when he declared Russia was trying to stop a war that was launched by Ukraine. He made the ludicrous claim at India's G20 summit.
"The war, which, uh, we are trying to stop,... that was launched against us (laughter interrupts)
39 seconds of priceless entertainment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGizGLceM-I

It's no shock that a Russian would lie. People know Russians lie when they open their mouth. So what if he was laughed at. Russian troops still occupy parts of Ukraine. I will laugh when they are kicked out of Ukraine.
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Old 03-05-2023, 09:23 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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It doesn't matter what Russia's intent is, since it will all come to naught.
The Ukrainian guerilla warfare effort has little to do with Ukrainian military, and is why Russia had to leave Kherson.
*There is a Ukrainian operative code named "Dollar". Dollar noticed armed guards at a building where there had been none, so he notified his handlers. The building was shelled at 5AM one morning and took out several important Russian leaders.
*Another grandmotherly type managed to kill 8 Russians by feeding them pie that had been poisoned.
*Ukrainian guerillas capture or assassinate pro-Russian mayors.
*"Savrog" is a Ukrainian soldier operating under cover in Russian occupied territory.
*25,000 assault rifles and 10M bullets have been handed out to Ukrainians who are willing to take them.
*It is estimated by experts that as many as 800,000 soldiers might be needed to fully occupy and subdue Ukraine. Russia simply does not have the capability.

Russia has no "hearts and minds" program whereby Ukrainians might be persuaded to see things as Russia does. Instead, Russia used the "beat down" approach - either see it our way or we will kill you.
The guerilla effort will never cease regardless of who "wins". And the sanctions will not be lifted until Russia dissolves. Cuba has been sanctioned since 1959. They were able to thrive for years as the USSR propped them up, but in the end become impoverished. I wish the same for Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFUoUfbm5Cg
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Old 03-05-2023, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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It's no shock that a Russian would lie. People know Russians lie when they open their mouth. So what if he was laughed at. Russian troops still occupy parts of Ukraine. I will laugh when they are kicked out of Ukraine.
Yeah Russians got the corner on lying. You been living under a rock the last 3 years?
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Old 03-05-2023, 09:57 AM
 
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It doesn't matter what Russia's intent is, since it will all come to naught.
The Ukrainian guerilla warfare effort has little to do with Ukrainian military, and is why Russia had to leave Kherson.
*There is a Ukrainian operative code named "Dollar". Dollar noticed armed guards at a building where there had been none, so he notified his handlers. The building was shelled at 5AM one morning and took out several important Russian leaders.
*Another grandmotherly type managed to kill 8 Russians by feeding them pie that had been poisoned.
*Ukrainian guerillas capture or assassinate pro-Russian mayors.
*"Savrog" is a Ukrainian soldier operating under cover in Russian occupied territory.
*25,000 assault rifles and 10M bullets have been handed out to Ukrainians who are willing to take them.
*It is estimated by experts that as many as 800,000 soldiers might be needed to fully occupy and subdue Ukraine. Russia simply does not have the capability.

Russia has no "hearts and minds" program whereby Ukrainians might be persuaded to see things as Russia does. Instead, Russia used the "beat down" approach - either see it our way or we will kill you.
The guerilla effort will never cease regardless of who "wins". And the sanctions will not be lifted until Russia dissolves. Cuba has been sanctioned since 1959. They were able to thrive for years as the USSR propped them up, but in the end become impoverished. I wish the same for Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFUoUfbm5Cg
Worth watching. Thanks for the link.
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Old 03-05-2023, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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It doesn't matter what Russia's intent is, since it will all come to naught.
The Ukrainian guerilla warfare effort has little to do with Ukrainian military, and is why Russia had to leave Kherson.
*There is a Ukrainian operative code named "Dollar". Dollar noticed armed guards at a building where there had been none, so he notified his handlers. The building was shelled at 5AM one morning and took out several important Russian leaders.
*Another grandmotherly type managed to kill 8 Russians by feeding them pie that had been poisoned.
*Ukrainian guerillas capture or assassinate pro-Russian mayors.
*"Savrog" is a Ukrainian soldier operating under cover in Russian occupied territory.
*25,000 assault rifles and 10M bullets have been handed out to Ukrainians who are willing to take them.
*It is estimated by experts that as many as 800,000 soldiers might be needed to fully occupy and subdue Ukraine. Russia simply does not have the capability.

Russia has no "hearts and minds" program whereby Ukrainians might be persuaded to see things as Russia does. Instead, Russia used the "beat down" approach - either see it our way or we will kill you.
The guerilla effort will never cease regardless of who "wins". And the sanctions will not be lifted until Russia dissolves. Cuba has been sanctioned since 1959. They were able to thrive for years as the USSR propped them up, but in the end become impoverished. I wish the same for Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFUoUfbm5Cg
Very much worth watching. Thanks. It will be interesting to see if separatist movements in the Republics take root.
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Old 03-05-2023, 10:58 AM
 
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Vice news Photojournalist Gabriele Micalizzi access to the Russian Troops.

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Old 03-05-2023, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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It doesn't matter what Russia's intent is, since it will all come to naught.
Let's make a bet friend. If Russia loses, I'll never post on this forum again. If Ukraine loses, then you.

It is impossible for Russia to lose this war without direct intervention from NATO. China will not let them lose. I don't think you appreciate what is at stake in this war.

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The Ukrainian guerilla warfare effort has little to do with Ukrainian military, and is why Russia had to leave Kherson.
Russia pulled out of Kherson because Ukraine blew up the bridges across the Dnieper. Russia was having to use ferries to bring in supplies. Every attempt at creating alternate routes, such as pontoon bridges, was also targeted by HIMARS. In the end, it was impossible to resupply Kherson adequately so Russia pulled back to the opposite side of the river where logistics was no longer a problem. It had nothing to do with partisan activity.

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Another grandmotherly type managed to kill 8 Russians by feeding them pie that had been poisoned.
Almost all stories like this are fake. When you google it, you get one link that claims two died and eight more got sick. Another says up to eight died. Another claims that eight died and hundreds more were poisoned. Another says two died and 28 more were poisoned. Another claims that several villagers poisoned the Russian troops, and some of them "died instantly"(which makes no sense if you think about it). I listened to an audio clip that purports to be a conversation between a Russian soldier and his girlfriend, but the girl sounds like a total robot reading a script while her supposed boyfriend is saying all these crazy things.

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Russia has no "hearts and minds" program whereby Ukrainians might be persuaded to see things as Russia does. Instead, Russia used the "beat down" approach - either see it our way or we will kill you.
Do you speak Russian or Ukrainian? Russia was on a near-decades long hearts and minds program long before this war. Even Arestovich admitted that if Ukraine can't join NATO it would inevitably rejoin Russia, voluntarily. Moreover, whether you believe it or not, Russia has been trying to avoid civilian deaths. Whereas the Ukrainians even admitted that the reason they didn't tell the Ukrainians that Russia was invading was because they didn't want all the civilians to leave the country.

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The guerilla effort will never cease regardless of who "wins". And the sanctions will not be lifted until Russia dissolves.
In a few more years the sanctions will be completely irrelevant anyway. Europe is going bankrupt. China is being subsidized by Russian natural resources. Russian trade with India quadrupled last year. Both the Saudis and Iran are against us. The United States has made enemies of almost everyone. Even Japan has begun buying Russian oil again.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...est-coalition/

The whole world is turning against the West on the backs of China and Russia. I was just listening to this video where David Sacks explains the situation extremely well.

https://youtu.be/FOuks3BM55o?t=5672

In the end, the "Russia has to be destroyed" crowd are not only hurting the Ukrainians. They're hurting America.
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Old 03-05-2023, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Texas
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https://twitter.com/nbreavington/sta...73145086726145

Q:Who started the war?
A:Ukraine
Q:Against whom did Ukraine start a war?
A:2014 against it's own people. Whose people are in Donbas?

Truth is treason in an empire of lives.
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