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Old 02-18-2022, 06:49 PM
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Think about it why would the Center for Disease Control be dictating developmental milestones for children? If you go to their site you would see that "The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommends" they are the agency that is making these suggestions.https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/childdeve...screening.html

Also a child under 3 would more often than not be at home with a parent or guardian so I don't think the parent is wearing a mask at home impeding a childs speech development.
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Old 02-18-2022, 06:52 PM
 
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The American Academy of Pediatrics said that 67.7% of the changes to early childhood milestones were moved to *older ages* in the recent study commissioned by the CDC.

But .. it's for the children!!!

Nothing like burying the overall impacts COVID policies have had on children by changing the guidelines.

Now there will be NO way to track it. Since we're not looking for them.

Are people getting a clue yet?
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Old 02-18-2022, 07:00 PM
 
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Yes, because they are raising the standards from the 50th percentile to the 75th percentile. That's how statistics works.
But the left wing lunatics in charge of the CDC, the federal government, and many deep blue hellholes have been completely ignoring the statistics for 2 years straight.

Do you ever pause to think about that when you're switching channels between CNN and MSNBC?
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Old 02-18-2022, 07:05 PM
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But the left wing lunatics in charge of the CDC, the federal government, and many deep blue hellholes have been completely ignoring the statistics for 2 years straight.

Do you ever pause to think about that when you're switching channels between CNN and MSNBC?
EVERYONE knows children are suffering, and have a set back in development and education. EVERYONE knows that.

This is about resetting the "norm", to realize children who are now behind in normal measures don't have a disability that needs to be diagnosed and treated.
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Old 02-18-2022, 07:08 PM
 
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That. Exactly.

The standard of what was a concern for children's abilities and developmental milestones, has changed during this pandemic. Because children of average ability will have a lower level of achievement right now, and without therapy or intervention will catch up, although these measurements we're seeing right now would have caused concern in normal times.

Mainstream children, who have suffered a short setback, don't need to be diagnosed and treated as if they are delayed due to a disability. They're not. They're normal. And will catch up.

Everyone knows children have suffered a setback in development in the last two years. No one is trying to say that's not true. Including the CDC.

OP - you say this is "evil". Do you want ALL these children who are temporarily delayed diagnosed with a disability? That's what they're avoiding.
The new "normal" folks...

Missing developmental milestones is no cause for concern.

Lower Achievement is expected

The kids will catch up

It's only a short setback

Oh, and it's still too early to remove the mask mandates in schools



I wonder if people release the longer these "temporary" measures are in place, the more "permanent" the damage becomes.
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Old 02-18-2022, 07:11 PM
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The new "normal" folks...

Missing developmental milestones is no cause for concern.

Lower Achievement is expected

The kids will catch up

It's only a short setback

Oh, and it's still too early to remove the mask mandates in schools



I wonder if people release the longer these "temporary" measures are in place, the more "permanent" the damage becomes.
Most everyone knows now, that children need to be back in school maskless.

And yes, they'll catch up.

Just like the kids in London did who all lived underground for the first 4 years of their lives during WWII.

It was AWFUL for them. But they weren't disabled, and didn't need a diagnosis.
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Old 02-18-2022, 07:20 PM
 
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The developmental milestones are all changing. The biggest reason is to help identify delays early, so we can start interventions as early as possible. The old milestones were based on what 50% of kids at a certain age could do. It’s now based on a 75% threshold. So while only 50% of kids knew 50 words at 24 months, 75% know it by 30 months. The idea is to better be able to differentiate between normally progressing children and true disabilities. As someone who works with families to identify developmental delays, this is a welcome change.

Whoever wrote the article in the OP just doesnt seem to actually understand the reasons for the change, and how it’s actually a good thing.
It’s not a good thing. It moves back the age for intervention. At 24 months the top 25% are using around 200 words and understand between 500-900 words. If you have a child that can not articulate 50 words the sooner it is figured out whether this is just a kid concentrating on developing other areas such as physical coordination and shortly they’ll shift to speech or a kid that will NEED intervention to be able to communicate the better. As someone who works with childhood disabilities you know good and well that there are certain sounds that have specific windows for internalized attainment. You may not work with all those in the 50-75% range but the earlier you evaluate them the better. You know there are states that this change means that kid speaking 30 words at 24 months won’t be seen by a speech professional unless they don’t say 50 words at 30 months (when they should be saying 200-300 words) and that delay will be cumulative until they hit school incapable of reading words they are unaware exist.

Regardless of why they changed the criteria I am ticked off. Trying to prevent specifically these types of early easily addressed disabilities was the entire purpose of Child Find which is geared towards children under three.
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Old 02-18-2022, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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https://publications.aap.org/pediatr...dFrom=fulltext

The American Academy of Pediatrics is the one that made the recommended changes. The reasons for the changes and the lack of study in these areas were also noted in the linked publication.



In other words, many of the milestones were made with very few to nearly 1 source used as the backing for the original guideline and needed to be updated. This is a very normal process in medicine. Guidelines made with 1 source for a nation of 300 million people is not a good guideline, you need much more to base it on and should be updated with all the current info we have now.
This rationalization smells like a bag of frozen shrimp that someone threw on top of the kitchen cabinets and left there for two months. Particularly the "this is a very normal process in medicine" part, since similar-sounding platitudes have constantly proved to be complete BS over the past couple years.
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Old 02-18-2022, 07:36 PM
 
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Most everyone knows now, that children need to be back in school maskless.

And yes, they'll catch up.

Just like the kids in London did who all lived underground for the first 4 years of their lives during WWII.

It was AWFUL for them. But they weren't disabled, and didn't need a diagnosis.
If everyone "knows" this...why are the Teacher Unions pushing back? If "everyone" knows this why are people like Fauci saying that it's too early?
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Old 02-18-2022, 07:37 PM
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If everyone "knows" this...why are the Teacher Unions pushing back? If "everyone" knows this why are people like Fauci saying that it's too early?
No idea.
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