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Old 05-20-2021, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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It's Connecticut law. I don't like it. But since I support more state autonomy, and I've supported red states passing their own laws, I won't be calling for the feds to overturn CT law.
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Old 05-20-2021, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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It's Connecticut law. I don't like it. But since I support more state autonomy, and I've supported red states passing their own laws, I won't be calling for the feds to overturn CT law.
I support federalism and states crafting their own laws as it works for them also, as long as those laws are legally valid within our federal constitutional framework. Unfortunately in this case it really does look like this law is a violation of the accused’s first amendment rights.
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Old 05-20-2021, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Incredible responses here - there seems to be more sympathy here for the arrested teenager than the classmate who was bullied online.
That's correct, and it's correct.

There's a little bit of a difference in the seriousness and significance of being called a mean name by a peer online and using the force of government to violate a natural (and constitutional) right.

What's incredible is that you could see it any other way.
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Old 05-20-2021, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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So now calling someone a name is illegal?

Holy cow we are raising a generation of sissies.

"S*ssies"?

I knew we were headed here when the "N-word" became a thing.

Words are placeholders for ideas, and if that idea is that someone is a n*gger, f*g, b*tch, c*nt, whatever, eliminating the words won't negate the concept.

We'll just use new words.

When I was in the restaurant industry, "Canadians" meant black people and so did "brown-top".

Was either descriptor as offensive as n*gger?

Probably not to most people, but in reality, there is no difference.
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Word police.
Aspiring thought police.
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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No, it's the underlying bullying that's the issue. And bullying, particularly the online variety can be illegal depending on where you are. If the teenager was smart (while being a racist jerk), he should have just said the racial slur to the other kid's face. There would have been no charges.



https://www.rasmussen.edu/degrees/ju...lying-illegal/


We either have a First Amendment or we don't.
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:10 PM
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the kid who bullied the other kid is a jerk, but he didn't break the law. words are free speech. arresting the kid for saying despicable words is indefensible.
He DID break a Connecticut law, is the issue. That law may need to be struck down, but in Connecticut apparently calling someone a racial slur is actually illegal. Per the article:

charged with ridicule on account of creed, religion, color, denomination, nationality or race, as well as second degree breach of peace,
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:11 PM
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"S*ssies"?

I knew we were headed here when the "N-word" became a thing.

Words are placeholders for ideas, and if that idea is that someone is a n*gger, f*g, b*tch, c*nt, whatever, eliminating the words won't negate the concept.

We'll just use new words.

When I was in the restaurant industry, "Canadians" meant black people and so did "brown-top".

Was either descriptor as offensive as n*gger?

Probably not to most people, but in reality, there is no difference.
Well, I'm curious. Why did you need code to communicate the race of other people? What needed saying, that you couldn't just say by using African American or Black?
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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I support federalism and states crafting their own laws as it works for them also, as long as those laws are legally valid within our federal constitutional framework. Unfortunately in this case it really does look like this law is a violation of the accused’s first amendment rights.
Someone will have to sue.
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Old 05-20-2021, 12:19 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Default Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

'Whatever happened to freedom of speech? '

it's dead.
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