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Old 05-20-2021, 08:34 AM
 
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'Sticks and stones...'

Sad to see such a wimpy generation
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Old 05-20-2021, 08:36 AM
 
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Incredible responses here - there seems to be more sympathy here for the arrested teenager than the classmate who was bullied online. We know that nothing will happen to the teenager. He won't go to jail. He won't have a record. But maybe he can learn a lesson in civics and how to talk to people before he gets himself hurt. And, calling someone fat vs a racial slur is a very different class of insult.
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Old 05-20-2021, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Incredible responses here - there seems to be more sympathy here for the arrested teenager than the classmate who was bullied online. We know that nothing will happen to the teenager. He won't go to jail. He won't have a record. But maybe he can learn a lesson in civics and how to talk to people before he gets himself hurt. And, calling someone fat vs a racial slur is a very different class of insult.
But they are not making bullying and name calling illegal, just racial slurs. I don't know what the statistics are on teenage suicide, but is being called a racial slur why kids commit suicide??
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Old 05-20-2021, 08:50 AM
 
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But they are not making bullying and name calling illegal, just racial slurs. I don't know what the statistics are on teenage suicide, but is being called a racial slur why kids commit suicide??

No, it's the underlying bullying that's the issue. And bullying, particularly the online variety can be illegal depending on where you are. If the teenager was smart (while being a racist jerk), he should have just said the racial slur to the other kid's face. There would have been no charges.



https://www.rasmussen.edu/degrees/ju...lying-illegal/
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Old 05-20-2021, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Incredible responses here - there seems to be more sympathy here for the arrested teenager than the classmate who was bullied online. We know that nothing will happen to the teenager. He won't go to jail. He won't have a record. But maybe he can learn a lesson in civics and how to talk to people before he gets himself hurt. And, calling someone fat vs a racial slur is a very different class of insult.
Online bullying is bad and should be discouraged. But simply taunting someone with words should not be criminalized. That is unconstitutional. The bully is getting more sympathy because it appears his constitutional rights are being violated here, while that does not appear to be happening to the victim.
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Old 05-20-2021, 09:22 AM
 
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And, calling someone fat vs a racial slur is a very different class of insult.
Really? Does it hurt less or more? Often kids who are overweight are dealing with emotional issues so I'm going with "hurts more". If fat insults are ok, why not insults of the physically or intellectually disabled?
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Old 05-20-2021, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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No, it's the underlying bullying that's the issue. And bullying, particularly the online variety can be illegal depending on where you are. If the teenager was smart (while being a racist jerk), he should have just said the racial slur to the other kid's face. There would have been no charges.



https://www.rasmussen.edu/degrees/ju...lying-illegal/
I'm not saying bullying isn't the underlying issue, of course it is.

Bullying leads to suicide, when have kids committed suicide because someone called them a racial slur? I think it's extremely rare that kids spouting ignorant racial slurs lead to suicide. Because when you hurl a racial slur, every other kid of your same race supports you, and denounces the slur, and pushes back against the person spouting the slur.
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Old 05-20-2021, 09:50 AM
 
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Just wait until the laws are expanded. For example, if you liked Trump’s border policy, that will be a hate crime.

I hate Democrats with a passion, but they don’t mess around. They go after people, and protect their own, unlike the weak Republicans who do nothing but sit there and allow it all to happen.
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Old 05-20-2021, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Just wait until the laws are expanded. For example, if you liked Trump’s border policy, that will be a hate crime.

I hate Democrats with a passion, but they don’t mess around. They go after people, and protect their own, unlike the weak Republicans who do nothing but sit there and allow it all to happen.
Laws curtailing free speech are not going to be allowed ultimately by the SCOTUS. As I’ve pointed out before, the SCOTUS voted 8-1 to uphold the free speech rights of the Westboro Baptist Church, purveyors of some of the most strident hate speech we’ve seen in this country in recent years.
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Old 05-20-2021, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Austin
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the kid who bullied the other kid is a jerk, but he didn't break the law. words are free speech. arresting the kid for saying despicable words is indefensible.
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