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Old 05-17-2021, 06:42 AM
 
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How do you know cases are falling? To find cases requires testing. Do you know how many people are being tested in India? I'd guess you don't.
I posted a link to the testing table for India earlier in this thread, go find it.

But trends are important. Why would cases be suddenly dropping day after day? Did India decide to roll back testing during the apex of their pandemic or are cases just falling? Sometimes, common sense is key.

You guys seem disturbed that India is improving. Strange.
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:44 AM
 
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It's for sure deaths are undercounted, as are cases. But it's also for sure, cases are falling as well.
When you ae running out of all available supplies and resources from oxygen to ventilators to fight this in major centers, with rural communities being left to struggle without from day one; how can anyone accurately tell if the case counts are dropping from less infection rate or, because thousands of people are aware there's no point in going to the rural clinics and are simply dying in their homes and being dropped into or buried alongside the Ganges R. by relatives or neighbors?
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Old 05-17-2021, 07:46 AM
 
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This is a ridiculous thread.

India is in a dire situation and to suggest something positive is coming out of there is grasping for straws.
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Old 05-17-2021, 01:57 PM
 
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This is a ridiculous thread.

India is in a dire situation and to suggest something positive is coming out of there is grasping for straws.
The straw they're grasping is the phony meme that masks, social distancing and lockdowns are all just fear mongering as a tool in some massive conspiracy to control the world's population for nefarious purposes as yet undefined.

Never mind that millions dying or millions more being left with debilitating conditions after surviving a bout of this is dictating a universal program of common sense throughout the world and not just an onerous hardship being imposed in snowflakeville.
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Old 05-18-2021, 12:10 AM
 
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The straw they're grasping is the phony meme that masks, social distancing and lockdowns are all just fear mongering as a tool in some massive conspiracy to control the world's population for nefarious purposes as yet undefined.

Never mind that millions dying or millions more being left with debilitating conditions after surviving a bout of this is dictating a universal program of common sense throughout the world and not just an onerous hardship being imposed in snowflakeville.
Not a straw, reality. India's 7-day average as of now is 287,000 (maybe will go up slightly as cases come in today). Yesterday, cases were below 300,000 for the first time in a while. Monday is a low reporting day, but still.

Cases are going down, whether you want to believe it or not. They're going down without any impact from vaccinations or new measures. They're going down because this virus burned itself out, at least for now.
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Old 05-18-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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Not a straw, reality. India's 7-day average as of now is 287,000 (maybe will go up slightly as cases come in today). Yesterday, cases were below 300,000 for the first time in a while. Monday is a low reporting day, but still.

Cases are going down, whether you want to believe it or not. They're going down without any impact from vaccinations or new measures. They're going down because this virus burned itself out, at least for now.
We'll just have to wait and see whether or not your off-the-cuff opinion supported only by the data-gathering capabilities of a country already proven incapable of accurately counting its dead, is accurate or just another one of those from people wanting it to be so.

Your other assumption those cases are dropping without help from the vaccination or measures imposed seems slightly prejudiced when you have no way of knowing the effects of rampant deaths having on a populace that perhaps were given to ignoring the seriousness like so many others, but have now woken to the reality after watching people dying all around them.

Suggesting that a virus has run it's course when it has shown the ability to morph into variants as yet uncounted or identified might just be a tad premature; wouldn't you agree?

What's the rush to go against all conventional wisdom to declare this virus having run it's course? What could possibly be any ethical consideration to do so?
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Old 05-19-2021, 06:40 AM
 
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India set a record yesterday with 4,500 deaths, still so many unknowns with this virus and premature celebrations.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:01 AM
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...3?ocid=BHEA000
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The Health Ministry reported a record 4,529 deaths in the past 24 hours, driving India's confirmed fatalities to 283,248. It also reported 267,334 new infections, as daily cases remained below 300,000 for the third consecutive day. The numbers are almost certainly undercounts.
Deaths lag infections, so a record in deaths doesn't really discount a case rate falling.

Bottom line = India is still in a dire state.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:09 AM
 
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Yep this seems like the pretty common pattern all over the world. A country gets a surge, measures are tightened, and it goes back down. Rinse, repeat.

We'll see more and more like USA where 4th wave that hit so many other countries hard was blunted by vaccination efforts, hopefully getting to where surges are relatively insignificant.
We are approaching 60% adult vaccination rate here in the USA. Many states have over 70%. Kudos to everyone that got their vaccination to help make this happen. Unfortunately in India access to vaccines isn't so easy, really the main defense is masking and distancing. Sadly in recent days, have had several deaths and serious Covid illness affecting my colleagues in India.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:13 AM
 
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India's drop in cases have been attributed to the widespread prescribing of Ivermectin and Hydrochloroquine. Cheap and simple medicines tha have finally been acknowledged to be extremely effective in treating Covid.
If we hadn't had morons like Fauci and the CDC stonewalling these druges our death counts would have been far lower.
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