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Old 07-18-2018, 06:03 PM
 
Location: Nashville, TN -
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When did Obama ever want peace with(in) the Middle East? He bombed even more countries than Bush.
If that's true, why did the Right attack him and claim he was an apologist? Why did they complain that he was "soft" on the ME?

In any case, Trump grabbed the baton and is running with it (figuratively speaking, of course. God knows he couldn't run if his life depended on it) faster than Bush or Obama did:

https://ips-dc.org/trump-carpet-bomb...oreign-policy/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.06d3b064fe11

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-era-r...le-east-667505

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...nt-from-obama/

 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by Tominftl View Post
Then he criticizes our FBI and others who protect our security.
"Our" FBI? The same FBI who infiltrated and disrupted black civil rights groups and antiwar protest groups?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO
The FBI’s War on Civil Rights Leader |Daily Beast
The FBI COINTELPRO Program and the Fred Hampton Assassination | Huffington Post

Too far in the past for your liking? Check out the nearly 70-page report from September 2013 by the ACLU:

UNLEASHED AND UNACCOUNTABLE: THE FBI'S UNCHECKED ABUSE OF AUTHORITY | ACLU
 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
Russia has always and will always play political games and try to gain intelligence from the U.S in an effort to weaken our country., denying that is pure ignorance. That's why people who have access to secret information have security clearances, and I will mention that Hillary was "careless" with our secrets. But you'll defend her.... bizarre

The only reason Democrats care this time is because Hillary lost.
Please show where anyone defended Hillary in this thread.
 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Originally Posted by newdixiegirl View Post
If that's true, why did the Right attack him and claim he was an apologist? Why did they complain that he was "soft" on the ME?

In any case, Trump grabbed the baton and is running with it (figuratively speaking, of course. God knows he couldn't run if his life depended on it) faster than Bush or Obama did:

https://ips-dc.org/trump-carpet-bomb...oreign-policy/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...=.06d3b064fe11

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-era-r...le-east-667505

https://www.thenation.com/article/th...nt-from-obama/
Because the "Right" is a bunch of unprincipled buffoons.

And yes, Trump is carrying on the Bush-Obama Doctrine of never-ending war.
 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:14 PM
 
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Hey look, those links actually prove my moral consistency. I called for Trump's impeachment after he illegally bombed Syria back in April.
He s a hypocrite anyway. He doesn't care about children.
 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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He s a hypocrite anyway. He doesn't care about children.
Neither did Obama.
 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:32 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I guess that makes perfect sense....... to someone not dealing from a full deck of cards.


Who is kidding who here?


Wanting Peace and civil relations with Russia, is now treason. You will get called a traitor.


My GOD PEOPLE! Do you not see how deranged this is, to take a stance that is so irrational and not see how you are losing elections?
He's a traitor because he publicly sided with Putin against our intelligence agencies, despite specific evidence they furnished about Russian cyber-interference into our elections.

What's deranged is your defense of Trump's Putin ass kissing. You might as well move to Moscow.
 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
I guess that makes perfect sense....... to someone not dealing from a full deck of cards.


Who is kidding who here?


Wanting Peace and civil relations with Russia, is now treason. You will get called a traitor.


My GOD PEOPLE! Do you not see how deranged this is, to take a stance that is so irrational and not see how you are losing elections?
Does Trump have to give our country away for us to have peace?
 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by petch751 View Post
Liberals....

If Trump would have been harsher... Liberals would scream he's trying to cause a war, it's Armageddon!
Trump is careful ... Liberals scream he's too soft

pfft Trump Derangement Syndrome. Tuning into liberal media to get your fix on liberal outrage.
I actually think Trump should have shined Putin't shoes after kissing his back end.
 
Old 07-18-2018, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Asia
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That some are outraged at what Trump said off the cuff despite what actions and policies he has continued, strengthened, and initiated, demonstrate clearly that some hate Trump so much that they are happy to look at style over substance, and to moan about what is said while ignoring what is being done.

Trump wants better relations with Russia. That is the smart approach.

Trump was wrong (factually) to claim no meddling by Russia. But, the US has meddled far more in Russian politics. Personally, I'd feel a bit odd, myself, standing next to any Russian and complaining about Russian meddling knowing that we have done far worse to Russia.

Despite what Trump said, he has been tougher on Russia than 0bama was. Putin knows this. You should know this. Its not a secret.
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