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"A second change point at AD 1270–1480 marked a return to stable, or slightly negative, sea level (−0.2 to 0.0 mm/y), which persisted until the end of the 19th century."
"A second change point at AD 1270–1480 marked a return to stable, or slightly negative, sea level (−0.2 to 0.0 mm/y), which persisted until the end of the 19th century."
Irrelevant to what is occurring today ....What you are doing is cherry picking data that suits your bias...
From the study you linked to...
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Conclusions
We have presented a unique, high-resolution sea-level recon-
struction developed using salt-marsh sediments for the last
2100 y from the US Atlantic coast. Post-AD 1000, these sea-level
reconstructions are compatible with reconstructions of global
temperature, assuming a linear relation between temperature
and the rate of sea-level rise.
Sorry OICU812, but only climate scientists are allowed to say that it`s cold and they can`t be Steve Goddard, Judith Curry or anyone who agrees with them because they are deniers.
Furthermore, direct measurements from ground stations, ocean buoys and weather balloons must be "adjusted" for their temperature data to be valid.
Only after this raw data has been adjusted in such a way that verification of the accuracy of the adjusted data is impossible will it be deemed reliable.
Satellite data that is inter calibrated with other satellites and is routinely tested and verified accurate by comparisons with live data from weather balloons and was considered the most reliable means of measuring the Earth`s temperature before the warming stopped is now both inaccurate and unreliable because it shows little or no warming and contradicts the "adjusted" temperature record.
It's a hopeless cause, attempting to convince politically motivated deniers that there isn't this huge, decades long multinational conspiracy in place, lying about climate change.
I think nothing short of a huge, one year jump in temperatures at their own home would be enough to budge them, which of course will never happen.
Did you read the article, do you understand there is a difference between land based water and sea temperatures, lower atmosphere and satellite temperature readings.
Yes 2 meter ground instruments that are not evenly distributed around the world and where there are huge gaps (grey zones with no instruments are filled in by "gridding") versus accurately measuring several thousand feet of the entire lower troposphere
So show me the link to the satellite data at NOAA rather than the UAH interpreted Graph, UAH doesn't have their own satellites so this should be available on the NOAA Site.
So you are saying that their measurements are wrong because they don't work for NOAA?
Dr Roy Spenser and John Christy from UAH LOL, but I give him credit he did predict that 2016 would be the warmest on record. I 'm sure you agree with that.
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" UAH satellite data comes after scientists with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reported “year-to-date temperature across global land and ocean surfaces was 1.57°F (0.87°C) above the 20th century average” which is “the highest for January–November in the 1880–2015 record.”
Click on the graph on the left. 1997-1998 looks to be warmer to me. 2009-2010 is close as well.
Sorry OICU812, but only climate scientists are allowed to say that it`s cold and they can`t be Steve Goddard, Judith Curry or anyone who agrees with them because they are deniers.
Furthermore, direct measurements from ground stations, ocean buoys and weather balloons must be "adjusted" for their temperature data to be valid.
Only after this raw data has been adjusted in such a way that verification of the accuracy of the adjusted data is impossible will it be deemed reliable.
Satellite data that is inter calibrated with other satellites and is routinely tested and verified accurate by comparisons with live data from weather balloons and was considered the most reliable means of measuring the Earth`s temperature before the warming stopped is now both inaccurate and unreliable because it shows little or no warming and contradicts the "adjusted" temperature record.
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Originally Posted by Blind Cleric
It's a hopeless cause, attempting to convince politically motivated deniers that there isn't this huge, decades long multinational conspiracy in place, lying about climate change.
I think nothing short of a huge, one year jump in temperatures at their own home would be enough to budge them, which of course will never happen.
Well, it better not!
The hopeless cause is trying to convince people of something that the easily accessible facts contradict.
If you want to claim sea levels rising due to glacier melt is caused by man adding CO2 to the atmosphere, then explain why the sea level rise began a full century before man began using HC fuels.
Explain why verifiable satellite temperature readings are now all of a sudden unreliable but a the "adjusted" and unverifiable readings from an invented grid of weather stations where often there is no such weather station to produce temperature readings is somehow the more accurate alternative.
That is the most straight up unintelligent thing I read in awhile. The sun is constant!
THE SUN IS CONSTANT!
LOL LOL
THE SUN IS CONSTANT!
Think about what you wrote.
THE SUN IS CONSTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gota laugh. The sun has issues. It is all full of hot plasma. (I wanted to say air) It is nicely quiescent currently but that could change tomorrow. Eccentricity and where the poles are at closest approach ha a lot to do with ice accumulation at the poles. I'm all for warmer being better.
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