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Old 02-11-2016, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I think you were looking for jetgraphics.


I also disagree with jetgraphics, but I explained why and didn`t resort to personal attacks which appears to be all you have left to cling to.


Maybe now would be a good time for you to explain why sea level rise, what is presented as proof positive of CAGW and the main reason we need to operate a carbon-exchange (CCX) / giant slush fund, reversed course on or around 1820 (sea levels were declining before that) and began what is clearly a consistent linear upward trend that continues today.
Actually the ocean levels have been rising since the last glaciation period... http://academics.eckerd.edu/instruct...SLRSustain.pdf
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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It fluctuates, but humans produce anywhere from 1-4% of the total CO2 each year, the planet naturally produces the other 99-96%. and yet.... that is enough to change the freaking entire climate of the earth? Or so that 6 minute government produced video claims.
That is what the science tells us, but the problem is that humans add CO2 with out removing any, and it adds up year after year, whereas CO2 produced naturally is removed by the carbon cycle...

We are burning carbon that was locked away by the natural cycle millions of years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ9hPl9dl98
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Old 02-11-2016, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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That is what the science tells us, but the problem is that humans add CO2 with out removing any, and it adds up year after year, whereas CO2 produced naturally is removed by the carbon cycle...

We are burning carbon that was locked away by the natural cycle millions of years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ9hPl9dl98

So humans aren't a natural part of the earth's lifecycle? Maybe you believe in Adam and Eve or ancient aliens.
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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So humans aren't a natural part of the earth's lifecycle? Maybe you believe in Adam and Eve or ancient aliens.
Do you actually believe industry, transportation and burning fossil fuels to make electricity is part of nature? Really?

The last time humans were part of nature was when we were hunter gatherers.
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Do you actually believe industry, transportation and burning fossil fuels to make electricity is part of nature? Really?

The last time humans were part of nature was when we were hunter gatherers.

Yes. All species evolve.

So you are suggesting modern humans are unnatural?
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Old 02-11-2016, 06:37 PM
 
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It is the opposite...CO2 causes a rise in temperatures. A rise in temperatures causes an increase in water vapor.
Incorrect.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Yes. All species evolve.

So you are suggesting modern humans are unnatural?
What we do is not part of nature.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Incorrect.
LOL....Really?
As temperature increases so does the process of evaporation. In addition the moisture holding capacity of the atmosphere increases with temperature. For every 1oC increase in global temperatures there is a 7% increase in the moisture holding capacity of the atmosphere. - See more at: Evaporation - Water & Climate Change

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Old 02-11-2016, 07:48 PM
 
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What we do is not part of nature.
Everything we do is part of nature. All chemicals are natural. All activities are natural. The man-nature dichotomy is logically absurd. And, of course, purely political.
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Old 02-11-2016, 07:52 PM
 
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The key thing we need to know about oil is that the quickest way to stop using it - is to use all of it and let the free market price it out of existence.

Global warming is a natural occurrence and should be left alone. If the sea rises, we move inland, creating millions of jobs in building and infrastructure.

All of this is a good and natural process. We need to embrace it and let it take its natural course. So what to we need to do about AGW? Absolutely nothing. Drill. Frack. Develop. Invent. Expand. Innovate. Adapt. Rebuild. MOVE!
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