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Old 02-07-2016, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Let's see your "credible" evidence? There has been none put forth. It's a complete hoax, and you know it.

Because we deny this so-called "climate change," a.k.a. "global warming," does not make us "scientifically illiterate." It just means we deny your "evidence" which has been manipulated and manufactured to show what you want to show, in order to support your agenda. Everyone knows this. Even you.
Funny that you ask for credible evidence. There are countless posts in this thread that ask the same thing of the deniers. I've personally asked repeatedly for proof that man made global warming is a hoax. To date, not one shred of evidence has been presented by the denier crowd to support their claims.

Do yourself a favor and read this thread before you embarrass yourself any further. There are numerous links to scientific research which strongly indicate man made global warming is real and happening as we speak. On that note I will repeat the request I made earlier that your denier brethren consistently cannot or will not provide: Please provide credible evidence that man made global warming is a hoax.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Why would a cooling trend be good?
That's not the issue. Quit deflecting and make your case.
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Old 02-07-2016, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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And why don't you get an education.




Tell me about it!


It`s like every other post I have a warmer challenging me about stratospheric cooling, rising sea levels and global temperature records.


This warmer whak-a-mole of ignorance is really getting tedious!




For people who claim to have a lock on science, the very basic concepts of physics and Earth`s history seem to be a complete mystery.


Processes that have been going on for tens of thousands of years are held up as proof positive that CO2, to the exclusion of all else, is the major cause of alleged global warming that doesn`t seem to exist anywhere except in adjusted temperature records that are always changing.


**** people. get a clue!
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Old 02-07-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Tell me about it!


It`s like every other post I have a warmer challenging me about stratospheric cooling, rising sea levels and global temperature records.


This warmer whak-a-mole of ignorance is really getting tedious!




For people who claim to have a lock on science, the very basic concepts of physics and Earth`s history seem to be a complete mystery.


Processes that have been going on for tens of thousands of years are held up as proof positive that CO2, to the exclusion of all else, is the major cause of alleged global warming that doesn`t seem to exist anywhere except in adjusted temperature records that are always changing.


**** people. get a clue!
Your post is nothing more than an opinion piece. It is painfully obvious that you either did not read or completely ignored the posts where we acknowledge the earth's climate goes through natural warming and cooling periods. Us "warmers" aren't disputing that. We have evidence (it's been posted ad nauseam in this thread) that the earth is going through a warming trend right now when it should be continuing on a natural cooling phase. The evidence gathered by credible climate scientists from around the world points to man's dumping of inordinate amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere as a major factor. Are you saying you know more about this than climate scientists? I challenge you to provide evidence to support your claims that this is some sort of worldwide hoax.
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Old 02-07-2016, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Actually, CO2 follows temperature increases with an 800 year lag.


Think of warm soda vs cold...same principle.




Do none of you people take ****ing science classes?
Do you? It sure doesn't show up on your posts...

Here educate yourself....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHozjOYHQdE
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Old 02-08-2016, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by momonkey View Post
Tell me about it!


It`s like every other post I have a warmer challenging me about stratospheric cooling, rising sea levels and global temperature records.


This warmer whak-a-mole of ignorance is really getting tedious!




For people who claim to have a lock on science, the very basic concepts of physics and Earth`s history seem to be a complete mystery.


Processes that have been going on for tens of thousands of years are held up as proof positive that CO2, to the exclusion of all else, is the major cause of alleged global warming that doesn`t seem to exist anywhere except in adjusted temperature records that are always changing.


**** people. get a clue!
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Originally Posted by ahzzie View Post
Your post is nothing more than an opinion piece. It is painfully obvious that you either did not read or completely ignored the posts where we acknowledge the earth's climate goes through natural warming and cooling periods. Us "warmers" aren't disputing that. We have evidence (it's been posted ad nauseam in this thread) that the earth is going through a warming trend right now when it should be continuing on a natural cooling phase. The evidence gathered by credible climate scientists from around the world points to man's dumping of inordinate amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere as a major factor. Are you saying you know more about this than climate scientists? I challenge you to provide evidence to support your claims that this is some sort of worldwide hoax.






Nope.


The Stratosphere really has cooled dramatically over the past 40 years.


Sea levels really have been raising for thousands of years.


Ice sheet really have been retreating for as long as sea levels have been raising.


What you call opinions are in reality "facts".




As for that global temperature record, there isn`t one.


Never has been.


The closest thing we have to it is the satellite record, but that doesn`t show very much warming.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Nope.


The Stratosphere really has cooled dramatically over the past 40 years.
Global warming causes stratospheric cooling....A Guide to CO2 and Stratospheric Cooling | climatephys


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Sea levels really have been raising for thousands of years.
Of course they have, as the earth is still recovering from the last glacial period.

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Ice sheet really have been retreating for as long as sea levels have been raising.
The polar ice caps have melted faster in last 20 years than in the last 10,000. A comprehensive satellite study confirms that the melting ice caps are raising sea levels at an accelerating rate. Polar ice sheets melting faster than ever | Environment | DW.COM | 04.02.2013

News - Arctic 'heat wave' sets new record low for sea ice - The Weather Network


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What you call opinions are in reality "facts".
The only facts you have is that you are constantly wrong.



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As for that global temperature record, there isn`t one.
Not one that you want to believe..
http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-conten...al-640x486.jpg


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The closest thing we have to it is the satellite record, but that doesn`t show very much warming.
Satellites do not measure surface temperatures........ Satellites do not measure temperature. They measure radiances in various wavelength bands, which must then be mathematically inverted to obtain indirect inferences of temperature. The resulting temperature profiles depend on details of the methods that are used to obtain temperatures from radiances. As a result, different groups that have analyzed the satellite data have produced differing temperature datasets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satell...e_measurements
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:40 PM
 
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Ah the same old tired meme. Warming causes cooling and warming causes warming. Warming causes catastrophic storms while warming causes drought.

Maybe warming can cause my bills to disappear. After all, it causes everything else.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Global warming causes stratospheric cooling....A Guide to CO2 and Stratospheric Cooling | climatephys


Of course they have, as the earth is still recovering from the last glacial period.

The polar ice caps have melted faster in last 20 years than in the last 10,000. A comprehensive satellite study confirms that the melting ice caps are raising sea levels at an accelerating rate. Polar ice sheets melting faster than ever | Environment | DW.COM | 04.02.2013

News - Arctic 'heat wave' sets new record low for sea ice - The Weather Network


The only facts you have is that you are constantly wrong.



Not one that you want to believe..
http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-conten...al-640x486.jpg


Satellites do not measure surface temperatures........ Satellites do not measure temperature. They measure radiances in various wavelength bands, which must then be mathematically inverted to obtain indirect inferences of temperature. The resulting temperature profiles depend on details of the methods that are used to obtain temperatures from radiances. As a result, different groups that have analyzed the satellite data have produced differing temperature datasets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satell...e_measurements
You're posting graphs from ARS Technica? They are hardly scientists and are also owned by a travel company. According to the report almost all of their employees work from home. Sounds fishy.
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Old 02-08-2016, 06:46 PM
 
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Warming is god to a warmer.
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