Wow...Look at the DOJ's New Position on Terrorism (environmentalists, Feingold, Sanders)
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It sure appears that many posting on this have a rather selective memory. Maybe reading up on terrorism or terroristic attacks have been going on within your border's for many many decades..Then post 9/11 The passing of the Patriot act of 2001 caused much more Government intrusions and everybody ( well most anyway) was just hunky dory with giving up some of their Constitutional Rights. Then of course since pandora's box in the middle East got opened ..Their Fanatical takeovers and influence has actually INFLUENCED American's who already felt disenfranchised..and toxic rhetoric they see on TV/read online not to mention the constant encouragement to fight back..kill and yes..even be willing to die...
Recent trends[edit]
Homegrown or imported terrorism is not new to the United States or Europe. Security analysts have argued that after the end of the Cold war, military conflicts have increasingly involved violent non-state actors carrying out asymmetric warfare,[4] of which terror attacks are one part.[5] The United States has uncovered a number of alleged terrorist plots that have been successfully suppressed through domestic intelligence and law enforcement. The United States has begun to account for the threat of homegrown terrorism, as shown by increased volume of literature on the subject in recent years and increased number of terrorist websites since Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq, began posting beheading videos in 2003. A July 2009 document by the FBI estimated that there were roughly 15,000 websites and web forums that support terrorist activities, with around 10,000 of them actively maintained. 80% of these sites are on U.S.-based servers.[6]
According to the Congressional Research Service’s study, American Jihadist Terrorism: Combatting a Complex Threat, between May 2009 and November 2010, law enforcement made arrests related to 22 homegrown jihadist-inspired terror plots by American citizens or legal residents of the U.S. This is a significant increase over the 21 plots caught in the seven interim years after the September 11, 2001 attacks. During these seven years, two plots resulted in attacks, compared to the two attacks between May 2009 and November 2010, which resulted in 14 deaths. This spike post-May 2009 shows that some Americans are susceptible to ideologies that support a violent form of jihad.[3][7]
Roughly one-quarter of these plots have been linked to major international terrorist groups but an increasing number of Americans holding high-level operational roles in these terrorist groups, especially al-Qaeda and its affiliated groups.[sentence fragment][7][8][9] The former CIA Director Michael Hayden called homegrown terrorism the more serious threat faced by American citizens today.[10]
The UK, likewise, considers homegrown terrorism to be a considerable threat. On June 6, 2011, Prime Minister David Cameron announced a wide-ranging strategy to prevent British citizens from being radicalized into becoming terrorists while at university. The strategy is intended to prevent extremist speakers or groups from coming to universities.[11]
I guess, your fear of Government is much higher than any of those threats mentioned on this link..The above snip~~ only outlines the recent threats. Sure..deregulate Security..close NSA..defunct DOJ..collect your guns and barricade yourselves in your personalized bunkers..and enjoy all the freedoms you had back in the day
Later in the article, they specifically say that there are no current laws that allow them to lock up "anti-government extremists" and "hate groups", so they're forced to find other charges to prosecute them.
So you can't just prosecute people for their political views or for hating someone? They have to actually commit a crime? Oh, how inconvenient!
Anyone else amazed at the blatant fascism here?
Holder did say a while back that aside from human caused global warming, domestic terrorism was the greatest threat. Now the problem..what constitutes domestic terrorism?
Sounds like Katherine Albrecht was on that domestic terror list
"Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, including the recent mass killing in Charleston, S.C., compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center."
Oh, and before you get all henny-penney about the Obama administration, from a 2002 FBI report:
Domestic right-wing terrorist groups often adhere to the principles of racial supremacy and embrace antigovernment, antiregulatory beliefs. Generally, extremist right-wing groups engage in activity that is protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly. Law enforcement becomes involved when the volatile talk of these groups transgresses into unlawful action.
On the national level, formal right-wing hate groups, such as the National Alliance, the World Church of the Creator (WCOTC) and the Aryan Nations, represent a continuing terrorist threat. Although efforts have been made by some extremist groups to reduce openly racist rhetoric in order to appeal to a broader segment of the population and to focus increased attention on antigovernment sentiment, racism-based hatred remains an integral component of these groups’ core orientations.
Right-wing groups continue to represent a serious terrorist threat. Two of the seven planned acts of terrorism prevented in 1999 were potentially large-scale, high-casualty attacks being planned by organized right-wing extremist groups.
It sure appears that many posting on this have a rather selective memory. Maybe reading up on terrorism or terroristic attacks have been going on within your border's for many many decades..Then post 9/11 The passing of the Patriot act of 2001 caused much more Government intrusions and everybody ( well most anyway) was just hunky dory with giving up some of their Constitutional Rights. Then of course since pandora's box in the middle East got opened ..Their Fanatical takeovers and influence has actually INFLUENCED American's who already felt disenfranchised..and toxic rhetoric they see on TV/read online not to mention the constant encouragement to fight back..kill and yes..even be willing to die...
Unfortunately like so many things the government comes up with I think many simply didn't understand what the Patriot Act would do but as soon as it became apparent the lawsuits and complaints did start.
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I guess, your fear of Government is much higher than any of those threats mentioned on this link..The above snip~~ only outlines the recent threats. Sure..deregulate Security..close NSA..defunct DOJ..collect your guns and barricade yourselves in your personalized bunkers..and enjoy all the freedoms you had back in the day
Few says to do away with everything......the argument is to concentrate on obvious threats like the Tsarnaev brothers as opposed to 80 year old women while getting on an airplane.
Holder did say a while back that aside from human caused global warming, domestic terrorism was the greatest threat. Now the problem..what constitutes domestic terrorism?
Sounds like Katherine Albrecht was on that domestic terror list
Section 802 of the Patriot Act. Very broad, very general and all encompassing.
OWS crowd fit that description.
USA Patriot Act of 2001, Sections 802-811
(5) the term `domestic terrorism' means activities that--
`(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
`(B) appear to be intended--
`(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
`(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
`(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
`(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.'.
“Meet Mikey Hicks,” said Najlah Feanny Hicks, introducing her 8-year-old son, a New Jersey Cub Scout and frequent traveler who has seldom boarded a plane without a hassle because he shares the name of a suspicious person. “It’s not a myth.”
The third-grader has been on the watch list since he was 5 years old. Asked whether he is a terrorist, he said, "I don't know."
For every name on a watch list, others may get momentarily detained. Very few names are exclusive to one person. I guess the only solution is to eliminate the lists.
Its interesting how many are going on blaming Obama.....and not recognizing that things like the patriot act got passed under Bush. The problem isn't Obama, or Bush. The problem is politicians of all stripes selling our liberties out from under us in the name of fear.
Want a real leader? Pick someone who voted against the patriot act. In the senate, thats D-Feingold-and JUST him in the Senate, in the house thats a much larger number of people. 62 Democrats, 3 Republicans, and 1 independent-Bernie Sanders.
By far the Democrats have voted against this more then the Republicans. Why? thats what I dont understand. I mean seriously listening to people here talk, I would have thought more Republican representatives would have voted against it. So why was it that more democrats did by a massive margin?
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