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The USG always have to have a boogieman to go after and for us to fear.
Now that Russia is taking over in the ME what is the USG to do.
Why they have to create a new boogieman.
And that would be us.
We are already greatly divided by politics, race, wealth, age.
They've already seen to that.
Now they will make us suspect each other of political terrorism.
Shades of early Nazi Germany !!!
And I say that to invoke your remembrance of history folks. No other country pitted citizen against citizen like Germany did. What started off as "keep the socialists out" ended up with Jews being exterminated.
That's quite a bit of over reaching their buddy, you reach any farther and you'll snap in half.
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan
That doesn't seem to matter with our government.
How did 5 year old children get put on our government's terrorist list ?
And once on that list you can never get your name removed.
I don't know how a 5 year old child gets put on the list do you have any proof of this that is not from some biased source? And if a 5 year old did get put on the list has anything been done to take him/her off it?
That's quite a bit of over reaching their buddy, you reach any farther and you'll snap in half.
I don't know how a 5 year old child gets put on the list do you have any proof of this that is not from some biased source? And if a 5 year old did get put on the list has anything been done to take him/her off it?
Do you not read and remember things ?
Didn't Snowden's revelations of what our government is doing to us make any impact on you ?
“Meet Mikey Hicks,” said Najlah Feanny Hicks, introducing her 8-year-old son, a New Jersey Cub Scout and frequent traveler who has seldom boarded a plane without a hassle because he shares the name of a suspicious person. “It’s not a myth.”
The FBI deemed OWS [Occupy Wall Street] to be a terrorist organization and went into “guilty until proven innocent” mode. Many of the FBI descriptions of possible OWS actions or those of affiliated organizations like Adbusters consistently look to have taken the most inflammatory snippets and presented them out of context.
The FBI also seems to believe that there is no such thing as peaceful protest, that any non-violent activity has the potential to turn violent and therefore should be treated as violent.
Pentagon Rebrands Protest as “Low-Level Terrorism”
The American Civil Liberties Union reported June 10 that “Anti-terrorism training materials currently being used by the Department of Defense (DoD) teach its personnel that free expression in the form of public protests should be regarded as ‘low level terrorism’.”
Later in the article, they specifically say that there are no current laws that allow them to lock up "anti-government extremists" and "hate groups", so they're forced to find other charges to prosecute them.
So you can't just prosecute people for their political views or for hating someone? They have to actually commit a crime? Oh, how inconvenient!
Anyone else amazed at the blatant fascism here?
It's not fascism when we do it...
This is pretty much just coming out of the closet, I'm pretty sure that it's been this way for a long time, they're just comfortable admitting it now, that said it should give one pause to consider they're comfortable admitting it. OWS, journalists, whistleblowers, the Tea Party have all been screened and pursued as domestic terrorists. Are they terrorists, well that all depends on your point of view.
Sad thing is that the US has so many statutes, in a week of surveillance the FBI can righteously arrest anyone and get a felony conviction, because that person surveilled posted something on a website that's a violation of some law, or violated copyright, or disposed of some chemical illegally, or gave a prescription painkiller to a friend/relative, or one of a million other offenses we don't even know about because we don't even think they apply to us, because they're regulations of the EPA, FDA, USDA, or another alphabet soup agency.
We have known external enemies, Russia, Islamicists, they justify the military, now we need internal enemies to justify secret police, terrorists work, because it's vague and nebulous. For the past 10 or so years there have been a number of attempts to name groups and internal terrorists, from OWS already mentioned to the NRA and the ACLU. We see it in this forum here regularly that dissent is claimed as treasonous. Yep we're heading in the wrong direction, and no one should be comfortable with it, because your views even if they're mostly mainstream with the incumbent government may digress sufficiently to raise red flags, and once you come under scrutiny who knows what will be found. Of course we now have the mechanisms in place to give you a good look over without even your knowledge.
The FBI deemed OWS [Occupy Wall Street] to be a terrorist organization and went into “guilty until proven innocent†mode. Many of the FBI descriptions of possible OWS actions or those of affiliated organizations like Adbusters consistently look to have taken the most inflammatory snippets and presented them out of context.
The FBI also seems to believe that there is no such thing as peaceful protest, that any non-violent activity has the potential to turn violent and therefore should be treated as violent.
Pentagon Rebrands Protest as “Low-Level Terrorismâ€
The American Civil Liberties Union reported June 10 that “Anti-terrorism training materials currently being used by the Department of Defense (DoD) teach its personnel that free expression in the form of public protests should be regarded as ‘low level terrorism’.â€
Funny i remember during the time of OWS many of those so called liberty loving republicans were perfectly ok with demonizing OWS and in fact seemed to cheer on the police pepper spraying or beating them up.
Funny i remember during the time of OWS many of those so called liberty loving republicans were perfectly ok with demonizing OWS and in fact seemed to cheer on the police pepper spraying or beating them up.
What does that have to do with the FBI and the government?
Later in the article, they specifically say that there are no current laws that allow them to lock up "anti-government extremists" and "hate groups", so they're forced to find other charges to prosecute them.
So you can't just prosecute people for their political views or for hating someone? They have to actually commit a crime? Oh, how inconvenient!
Anyone else amazed at the blatant fascism here?
so with the DOJ's new view, when will obama be prosecuted under their new guideline?
Read the post above mine i was answering what he wrote
I read it, I'm still missing the context. You replied to a comment complaining about the actions of the FBI. What does that have to do with what you said?
Why are they lying leftist whack jobs? Is a group you belong to considered a hate group?
The SPLC is a hate group.
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