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Funny i remember during the time of OWS many of those so called liberty loving republicans were perfectly ok with demonizing OWS and in fact seemed to cheer on the police pepper spraying or beating them up.
That's what you saw local police do.
But FBI involvement was much different.
People were followed, people got fired from their jobs, people found their credit got cancelled.
Lots of "odd" things where their lives were made miserable where they lived.
All this for leading protests.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2410783.html
At the end of December, the FBI released internal documents that revealed a coordinated -- if quixotic -- surveillance of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Just about every law enforcement agency gets a cameo in the correspondence: Homeland Security, the Joint Terrorism Task Force, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, an entity known as the Domestic Security Alliance Council -- and even the Federal Reserve. But the extremely limited disclosure makes it difficult to assess exactly with whom the government agencies were coordinating, or why. Was the FBI attempting to infiltrate and undermine the Occupy movement, or simply trying to keep tabs on protesters who were hoping to spark political change?
But FBI involvement was much different.
People were followed, people got fired from their jobs, people found their credit got cancelled.
Lots of "odd" things where their lives were made miserable where they lived.
All this for leading protests.
FBI Surveillance Of Occupy Wall Street Detailed
At the end of December, the FBI released internal documents that revealed a coordinated -- if quixotic -- surveillance of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Just about every law enforcement agency gets a cameo in the correspondence: Homeland Security, the Joint Terrorism Task Force, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, an entity known as the Domestic Security Alliance Council -- and even the Federal Reserve. But the extremely limited disclosure makes it difficult to assess exactly with whom the government agencies were coordinating, or why. Was the FBI attempting to infiltrate and undermine the Occupy movement, or simply trying to keep tabs on protesters who were hoping to spark political change?
The US government has a history of spying on political dissdents. They did the same thing in the 60's. This is why you can rest assured that regardless of who wins the coronation next year the following will happen: more domestic spying, more foreign war involvement, more restrictions on all constitutional rights, fewer gun rights, more concentration of wealth in the elite, harder lives for everyone else, crackdown on internet speech (coming soon).
I don't think it's just this administration, but the whole federal bureaucracy that exists regardless of who is voted in. Their job is to "protect" the citizens, but that leads to the desire to control everyone and everything. It's the natural progression of things...as Thomas Jefferson warned long ago. Definitely not excusing them, but it makes sense why they want to prevent any opposition.
It is this administration!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Obama admin is the zenith of anti gun slight of hand.
The federal government has been weaponized by obama and holder...the bureaucrats would not make a move without orders from the whitehouse. Fed agencies live to gain political hay. There are no rogue federal agencies.
No, Fascists claimed to be holier than thou. Anti-government groups, like ISIS, deserve to be treated appropriately. Ideally, this focus should simply take out the "religion" aspect of it, as "jihadist" happen to come in many shapes, forms, and regardless of their religious beliefs.
ISIS hates America, so do many Americans. Is it a bad idea to treat them both as a threat? In fact, the US Constitution empowers the central government against such nuisance that such groups bring.
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Blatant fascism from the leftists.
Isn't that impossible according to them?
Awareness is not a terrible idea, you should try it. I don't know if this is a shameless exercise or simply a matter of being ignorant about it, but your argument is the same as suggesting: "If you condoned confederate causes, you could not be a conservative/republican today"
Somehow I have a feeling you'd keep away from making that argument. Or, at least I hope so. Why is it that conservatives want to now claim that the confederacy was a liberal idea and based on liberal causes?
Well I guess that means they are off busy creating some laws.
Easier and more indirect to pass 'regulations". No discussion, no debate just isolated pieces of innocous regs that eventualy add up to, "no guns for you!"
Easier and more indirect to pass 'regulations". No discussion, no debate just isolated pieces of innocous regs that eventualy add up to, "no guns for you!"
As it should, to respect the second amendment.
Plenty of idiots believe that insurrection against the United States was the idea behind second amendment. Fools.
No, Fascists claimed to be holier than thou. Anti-government groups, like ISIS, deserve to be treated appropriately. Ideally, this focus should simply take out the "religion" aspect of it, as "jihadist" happen to come in many shapes, forms, and regardless of their religious beliefs.
ISIS hates America, so do many Americans. Is it a bad idea to treat them both as a threat? In fact, the US Constitution empowers the central government against such nuisance that such groups bring.
Awareness is not a terrible idea, you should try it. I don't know if this is a shameless exercise or simply a matter of being ignorant about it, but your argument is the same as suggesting: "If you condoned confederate causes, you could not be a conservative/republican today"
Somehow I have a feeling you'd keep away from making that argument. Or, at least I hope so. Why is it that conservatives want to now claim that the confederacy was a liberal idea and based on liberal causes?
ISIS is not an anti-US government group. In fact, it is a pro government group. It wants to create an islamic government in the ME.
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