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Old 10-18-2015, 11:18 AM
 
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Good while the amount of attacks on U.S. soil by foreigners haven't been much they have cost us quite a bit in some rather large attacks. The truth of it is before 9-11 many of the acts of terrorism has been homegrown loonies. Remember the Oklahoma city bombing that wasn't by a Muslim that was by a right wing extremist. How about all those abortion bombings those were not Muslims or foreigners either those were right wing extremists. Also while we have been investigating muslims and other foreigners in this county we have allowed the mafia and other groups like them to get more powerful. And let us not forget those anti-militia groups and the other right wing neo-nazi groups in this country. I get it it's hard for many right wingers to come to terms with this but not everyone who is different or who is foreign is an enemy.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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What's old is new again.
Honest Abe Lincoln suspended Habeas corpus and waged a war that eventually killed 750000 of his own countrymen, so yeah anything goes.
Obama enhanced Bush's position on this and I would expect it to get worse with each new admin. along with the growing dissatisfaction of the fed govt.
What we have now is a system where all the executive has to do is to declare you're an enemy and they can lock you up or kill you. No proof required, no trial etc.
God bless America.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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DOJ pivots from ISIS to U.S. anti-government groups - CNNPolitics.com



Later in the article, they specifically say that there are no current laws that allow them to lock up "anti-government extremists" and "hate groups", so they're forced to find other charges to prosecute them.



So you can't just prosecute people for their political views or for hating someone? They have to actually commit a crime? Oh, how inconvenient!

Anyone else amazed at the blatant fascism here?
They're being aided and abetted in their efforts by the Southern Poverty Law Center. A fine group of lying, leftist whack jobs.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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Good while the amount of attacks on U.S. soil by foreigners haven't been much they have cost us quite a bit in some rather large attacks. The truth of it is before 9-11 many of the acts of terrorism has been homegrown loonies. Remember the Oklahoma city bombing that wasn't by a Muslim that was by a right wing extremist. How about all those abortion bombings those were not Muslims or foreigners either those were right wing extremists. Also while we have been investigating muslims and other foreigners in this county we have allowed the mafia and other groups like them to get more powerful. And let us not forget those anti-militia groups and the other right wing neo-nazi groups in this country. I get it it's hard for many right wingers to come to terms with this but not everyone who is different or who is foreign is an enemy.
How would like to be locked up indefinitely because someone in the fed govt finds your position threatening? Or targeted for assassination?
Right now you are on the same page because a dem holds office, but if a GOP'er thinks you're a threat...look out.
There is more to fear from your naive mindset than a random bomber.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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They're being aided and abetted in their efforts by the Southern Poverty Law Center. A fine group of lying, leftist whack jobs.
Why are they lying leftist whack jobs? Is a group you belong to considered a hate group?
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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Why are they lying leftist whack jobs? Is a group you belong to considered a hate group?
The SPLC is a hate group. Why do you trust them?
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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How would like to be locked up indefinitely because someone in the fed govt finds your position threatening? Or targeted for assassination?
Right now you are on the same page because a dem holds office, but if a GOP'er thinks you're a threat...look out.
There is more to fear from your naive mindset than a random bomber.
A right winger did hold office when this started and i never got picked up the federal government i also don't belong to some right wing anti-government milita or a right wing hate group. If i did get picked up and get found not guilty after being investigated i would be angry and i would sue them for lost wages and mental anguish. This is what happens when we have a right winger at the helm of a national tragedy instead of making things better and thinking with a level head they go cowboy on us and create the DHS,TSA, and the PATRIOT ACT. Also i didn't notice many righties on this site at the time condemning the NDAA. So guess what when you don't think these things will affect you at the time and you ignore and belittle those telling you something this is what will happen. Now you go on living in fear the government is coming to get you and i will go out today and pick up some more clothes for work in the morning.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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The SPLC is a hate group. Why do you trust them?

Uhuhh sure they are kind of like I'm sure you consider Planned parenthood a cult right ? And how is the SPLC a hate group exactly??
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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The USG always have to have a boogieman to go after and for us to fear.

Now that Russia is taking over in the ME what is the USG to do.
Why they have to create a new boogieman.

And that would be us.

We are already greatly divided by politics, race, wealth, age.
They've already seen to that.

Now they will make us suspect each other of political terrorism.


Shades of early Nazi Germany !!!
And I say that to invoke your remembrance of history folks. No other country pitted citizen against citizen like Germany did. What started off as "keep the socialists out" ended up with Jews being exterminated.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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A right winger did hold office when this started and i never got picked up the federal government i also don't belong to some right wing anti-government milita or a right wing hate group. If i did get picked up and get found not guilty after being investigated i would be angry and i would sue them for lost wages and mental anguish. This is what happens when we have a right winger at the helm of a national tragedy instead of making things better and thinking with a level head they go cowboy on us and create the DHS,TSA, and the PATRIOT ACT. Also i didn't notice many righties on this site at the time condemning the NDAA. So guess what when you don't think these things will affect you at the time and you ignore and belittle those telling you something this is what will happen. Now you go on living in fear the government is coming to get you and i will go out today and pick up some more clothes for work in the morning.
That doesn't seem to matter with our government.

How did 5 year old children get put on our government's terrorist list ?
And once on that list you can never get your name removed.
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