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Old 10-18-2015, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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"At least all people there have access to healthcare free"

This why some like you are called "low information voters" and you should have to take a course, like is required to exercise your 2nd Amendment rights, BEFORE being allowed to vote.

Hint. it is NOT free, they PAY for it through extremely HIGH TAXES.
Pot calling kettle...

Next time I hear you that you're paying too much in taxes... (and don't forget premiums and your added costs to health care, among other things).
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Old 10-18-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Interesting interview. A Swedish citizen explains their system.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbTEzhaXZ3w
Wrong forum
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Old 10-18-2015, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_Sweden

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From a pay of 100, the employee first pays 32 in income tax (direct, 32%); on top of that, the employer pays an additional 31.42 in employer's social fees (indirect, 31.42%).
Thus, from a pay check of 100, 63.42/131.42 (i.e., 48.3%) is paid as taxes, although the employer's contribution is a fee for the employee's adherence to the Swedish social security scheme. The effective rate may be lowered by, for example, earned income tax credits and private retirement savings contributions.
In addition, the employee pays 7 percent in pension contributions to the public system, with a cap at an annual income of 420,447 kr. Thus, the maximum employee contribution is 29,400 kr. The employee's contributions are fully tax-deductible.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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May be Sweden should learn from how we fund our military industrial complex, and trillions in wars (and hundreds of billions a year on interest in debt it also contributes too). No fiscal accountability works wonders with conservatives.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This does not include the taxes imposed at the local ( 30-31%) municipal, ( 18.43%) county level 10-12% property taxes, Capial Gains ( 30%) and VAT ( 25%).
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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What did you think of Johan Norberg's comment about how the Swedish and other healthcare systems are free loading off of the innovations that come from the U.S health system(of 2008)?
Too bad more US people are unaware the US is subsidizing non means tested global healthcare.

The rest of the world negotiates the price of medications, prescription drugs and treatments. While VA and Medicaid do, Congress will not allow Medicare to do so. Congress does not bite the wallets that feed them.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Too bad more US people are unaware the US is subsidizing non means tested global healthcare.

The rest of the world negotiates the price of medications, prescription drugs and treatments. While VA and Medicaid do, Congress will not allow Medicare to do so. Congress does not bite the wallets that feed them.
And while TPP opens up low cost drugs to everyone in the world, the US will be stuck with their high cost drugs for 8 years beyond TPP signing.

A deal made with big pharma and the administration.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Property taxes and combined federal and income taxes in California, New York, New Jersey are higher than what the average Swede is paying. Most Swedes pay 30% income tax and gets all the benefits and free things through that!! You need to be forced to live in Europe for a year until YOU realize how things are!
Compare apples and apples, please. The Swedes are taxed at the national, local, municipal and county levels, plus property tax and VAT.
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Old 10-18-2015, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This is all BS.. Nobody waits a year to get treatment
Sure did in some parts of Sweden before reforms in 2005.
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Old 10-18-2015, 12:39 PM
 
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Property taxes and combined federal and income taxes in California, New York, New Jersey are higher than what the average Swede is paying. Most Swedes pay 30% income tax and gets all the benefits and free things through that!! You need to be forced to live in Europe for a year until YOU realize how things are!
The FACT that they ARE paying for it THROUGH TAXES PROVES it is NOT FREE.

Most Swedes pay around 60% of their income in taxes.
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