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Why do reps prefer retrograde antiquated pathways?
Civilized societies prefer a social democracy where certain things are part of the citizenship such as Health Care, free time for leisure activities, education, highways, parks, adequate housing, high salaries, and improved nutrition.
The Scandinavians are getting there and we are still in barbaric times.
Scandinavian and European countries allow their rich to legally avoid taxes. No FATCA law. Why doesn't the U.S. do that, as well?
Bernie Sander's version of socialism isn't true socialism. Its more of the same, just different choices.
True Socialism would be public control/employee control of all companies. I.e. companies run by state or by a coop.
Bernie is more of a europe. A lot of socialism policies such as state healthcare, but also allowing companies to continue to exist as it is today
Regardless - its all smoke and mirrors. Bernie, if elected, will not make any significant changes unless there is a sudden house/senate change.
Bernie will just be Obama 2.0, at this point. More of the same (good for some, bad for others)
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Originally Posted by Epson Exile
Okay so I can't say I know a lot about this idea. But as of now this is my take on it. Or at least my idea on what it seams Bernie Sanders is putting forward. Socialism would be a complete and total form of Government or you could say Social Contract. But Democratic Socialism would be where there are certain things about a Government. That you are willing to put forward the idea. That for the greater good of the many. There are certain things that are important enough to set aside some liberties and freedoms to have more control of them. For instance Education, Healthcare, Retirement, Social Mobility........
but I couldn't be bothered to read your entire post. . . if you cant say it in a paragraph, eh - move on
If you recall, during Obamas first term he had the majority in both houses. Thats right... All Dem majority. Why didn't more get done?
Because between 2008 and 2010 Democrats only had the required supermajority in the Senate for a total of 60 working days. I don't know why the myth of the Democratic majority persists, but here it is again and again.
Because between 2008 and 2010 Democrats only had the required supermajority in the Senate for a total of 60 working days. I don't know why the myth of the Democratic majority persists, but here it is again and again.
There is no myth there. Obamacare got passed with ZERO Republican votes.
They could have crammed anything thru Congress during that period.
Yet they didn't.
Because between 2008 and 2010 Democrats only had the required supermajority in the Senate for a total of 60 working days. I don't know why the myth of the Democratic majority persists, but here it is again and again.
uhm...by law..only a simple majority is required to pass a law
the 60 vote BS is about stopping a filibuster, the needed ploy to let the minority at least have a word in the fight
the fact is that from jan 2007 - jan 2011 dems had control, of both houses, and from jan 2009 to jan 2011 (two years) they had control of all three houses
This is my response to this.
The bill of rights and the constitution limits what the government can not do, and protects the rights of individuals. The Tenth amendment says anything not listed in the constitution is the right of the people and or states.
So take every FEDERAL department and remove it that is not in the constitution.
EPA gone
IRS gone
Department of energy gone
Department of education gone
etc etc
Social Security phased out GONE.
Payroll tax GONE
You want socialism raise all your taxes in your states IE per the 10th amendment. You can have a state EPA , a state of education etc.
If I live in a state of socialist, I will move to another state with freedom and less government and or vote for someone to change that state.
Why do reps prefer retrograde antiquated pathways?
Civilized societies prefer a social democracy where certain things are part of the citizenship such as Health Care, free time for leisure activities, education, highways, parks, adequate housing, high salaries, and improved nutrition.
The Scandinavians are getting there and we are still in barbaric times.
If you like the European model, feel free to go there and partake of that largesse.
I don't like my money being used for things other than myself.
But it does. I vote and I will vote down any socialistic program.
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