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Old 09-30-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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Oh, after you. Please.
Well, you've been given two opportunities to flesh out your idea of a "congruent foreign policy" and you've demurred. No sense belaboring it.

As an alternative, can you give an example of a past president who's kept us out of war by using one?
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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So you are saying Russia bombed Syria to tell the US to stay away? That is like setting your lawn on fire to get the neighbor dog to stop peeing in your yard. Way to go Putin.

Me have sexual issues? I am not the one who gets all warm between the legs when I see a shirtless picture of Putin, he seems to only do that to conservatives who seem to think of him as some sort of hero.
1. No, Russia bombed our allies ( the Anti-Assad rebels) to prop up Assad; Obama/Kerry were tricked into believing the Russians were going after ISIS; his generals then warned us to stay out of Syrian airspace -- and so far, we have.

2. I have no idea what your fixation on Putin and what other people may think of him is all about. It certainly adds nothing to the discussion, though.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Well, you've been given two opportunities to flesh out your idea of a "congruent foreign policy" and you've demurred. No sense belaboring it.

As an alternative, can you give an example of a past president who's kept us out of war by using one?
Didn't think you could.

Monroe Doctrine. Marshall Plan. Containment.

Jeez, get to Googling. And start defending your boy, who is in so far over his head....after all, he IS the CIC, remember?
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I am actually curious how you would manage Syria if elected president?
Ask your pal Scratch. I have a feeling he'd go all McCain and divide it up into spheres of influence. But he's not a risk-taker...
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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Monroe Doctrine. Marshall Plan. Containment.
Hmm again. How would you apply the Monroe Doctrine to Syria?

And while the Marshall Plan was a great thing (again, relevance?) it didn't keep the U.S. out of war.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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1. No, Russia bombed our allies ( the Anti-Assad rebels) to prop up Assad; Obama/Kerry were tricked into believing the Russians were going after ISIS; his generals then warned us to stay out of Syrian airspace -- and so far, we have.

2. I have no idea what your fixation on Putin and what other people may think of him is all about. It certainly adds nothing to the discussion, though.
So Russia didn't bomb Syria? I thought you just said he did....

Oh, I just enjoy this love affair some right wingers seem to have with Putin, like he is some glorious right wing hero.

Here is a great example of that love affair some people seem to have with Putin.

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At least Putin IS a man...unlike our rainbow warrior.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:39 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Ask your pal Scratch. I have a feeling he'd go all McCain and divide it up into spheres of influence. But he's not a risk-taker...
Why would I want to ask him what you would do as president? You are the one who originally wanted to tell us....so I was curious what your plan of attack would be...

Or do you not have one? Another one of your all talk with no actions posts?
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Hmm again. How would you apply the Monroe Doctrine to Syria?

And while the Marshall Plan was a great thing (again, relevance?) it didn't keep the U.S. out of war.
You asked for examples of consistent, congruent approaches to foreign policy. I gave you three, including the Marshall Plan which rebuilt Europe and provided a bulwark against further Soviet expansion. That's all you get.

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Old 09-30-2015, 05:51 PM
 
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You asked for examples of consistent, congruent approaches to foreign policy. I gave you three, including the Marshall Plan which rebuilt Europe and provided a bulwark against further Soviet expansion. That's all you get.
So you've no idea how to apply them to Syria; as previously noted neither the Marshall Plan nor "containment" served to keep the U.S. out of war; and lastly it's richly ironic to note that if the Monroe Doctrine were applied, America wouldn't be in Syria or anywhere else in the Middle East in the first place.

Enjoy your dip.
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Old 09-30-2015, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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I wished the same people who feel that Assad stabilizes Syria and the region would have gotten a similar message to W before he deposed Saddam and emptied the US treasury. Isis and Al Queda were not in Iraq when Saddam was in power. Bush 41 had enough sense to leave Saddam there but W followed the chicken hawks catastrophic advice.

Regardless of your position on geopolitics, the war in Iraq hardly "emptied the US treasury". Not by a log shot.
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