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Old 09-29-2015, 05:50 PM
 
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Maybe, maybe not, but he is right. Assad has got to go if there is ever going to be an end to this civil war, he cannot be in power.
If ISIS is defeated the civil war is over. Proof of that is the United States lack of success in gaining the recruits for their "moderate" opposition to Assad. I'm surprised you would buy the Assad has to go meme.
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Old 09-29-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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It actually does make sense, Assad being in power means there is no unified Syria. And Assad isnt fighting ISIS, he is fighting the political rebels

knock Assad out and you can unify the nation and stomp out ISIS.
Assad is fighting ISIS, along with the other rebel groups.

Leave it alone, and keep the U.S out. Syria can choose its own government, not have the U.S. choose it and turn Syria into another Iraq.

The U.S. has already done enough damage in the Middle East with its foolish interventionist foreign policy.
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Old 09-29-2015, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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]If ISIS is defeated the civil war is over. [/b] Proof of that is the United States lack of success in gaining the recruits for their "moderate" opposition to Assad. I'm surprised you would buy the Assad has to go meme.
Except for the fact that it wouldn't be.
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Old 09-29-2015, 06:19 PM
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Assad has to go regardless. Syria must go back to the petro dollar just like Iraq and Libya did.
And a pipeline must be built ... this is just the powder keg that could get way uglier... I also find it hypocritical that o says putin is awful for supporting rebels in a soviergn nation(Ukraine) meanwhile...
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Old 09-29-2015, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

Paying attention to world events would help.
Pretty sure we didnt start the Arab Spring.
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Old 09-29-2015, 08:49 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Assad is fighting ISIS, along with the other rebel groups.

Leave it alone, and keep the U.S out. Syria can choose its own government, not have the U.S. choose it and turn Syria into another Iraq.

The U.S. has already done enough damage in the Middle East with its foolish interventionist foreign policy.
intervention was not the subject matter of the comment you responded to.
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Old 09-29-2015, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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He supported the Arab Spring. That includes supporting the Muslim Brotherhood.
Supporting a change in government is not the same as supporting the Muslim Brotherhood that won an election in 2 of the countries that overthrew their governments.

At best, your argument is that he supported Democracy, and the party to which he supported didnt win.


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He acted stupidly.
Based on your post, you actually have no idea how he acted, you simply assumed the winning party was the one he supported all along.
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Old 09-29-2015, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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You must be well rested after your seven year nap....
You must be well rested after completely dodging my question.
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Unite it how? Leftover Baathists join hands with rebels? ISIS miraculously vanishes, in spite of its metastatic growth over the past year?
Your argument was that the presidents comment didnt make sense. but you believe keeping a man in power who started a civil war does, Do you beleive the people are just going to fall back in line behind him ?

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And "knocking Assad out" would include going to war with Russia...now that Putin is his guarantor.
No, it would not. Proxy wars are fought all the time and we have done it multiple times with Russia without over going to war with them.
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Old 09-29-2015, 09:10 PM
 
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I wished the same people who feel that Assad stabilizes Syria and the region would have gotten a similar message to W before he deposed Saddam and emptied the US treasury. Isis and Al Queda were not in Iraq when Saddam was in power. Bush 41 had enough sense to leave Saddam there but W followed the chicken hawks catastrophic advice.
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