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Old 11-16-2013, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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how this proceeds really depends on the democrats. it may be that the republicans are capitalizing on current events, and are using holder to get to obama. and it may depend on what happens in the judiciary committee, will democrats support the resolution? and if they do, how many will support it? if half the democrats on the committee support the articles of impeachment, then perhaps it will proceed to the full house for a vote. on the other hand if it does pass the committee, ut democrats dont support it, then it will likely die before it reaches the entire house, but it then gives the republicans more ammunition against democrats in the upcoming elections.
Of course it depends entirely on the Democrats. It depends on Democrats circling the wagon around Holder and protecting one of their own criminals. If Democrats ever did the right thing and actually impeached Holder followed by removing from office, then the Republican "October Surprise" for 2014 will have failed.

The GOP is counting on Democrats covering for their own criminal members, obstructing the investigation and disrupting the hearings whenever they can. Then some time in October the Judiciary Committee will vote to allow the Articles of Impeachment against Holder to come to a floor vote in the House. With just a week or two before the 2014 mid-term elections the House will vote to impeach Holder, and send the resolution to the Senate for their vote. Meanwhile the GOP will be releasing campaign ads highlighting the deliberate fraud and deceit within the Democrat Party. Starting with at the top with the ObamaCare fraud, and infesting the rest of the party like a cancer.

If we use the contempt charge against Holder by the House, 17 Democrats voted with the Republicans to find Holder in criminal contempt, and 21 Democrats voted with the Republicans for find Holder in civil contempt. A small handful of Democrats may support impeachment, just like a small handful supported impeaching Clinton. It will be irrelevant however, since it only requires a simple majority vote.

With 15 Senate Democrats up for reelection, and 5 open Democrat seats, if the GOP succeed at exposing and reminding the American public of the fraud and deceit perpetrated by the Democratic Party, it could make the difference and give the GOP a majority in the Senate.

If Sen. Reid chooses not to do anything, and tables the House resolution, and if the Democrats do end up losing the majority in the Senate, that House resolution has a real chance of being brought before the Senate floor for a vote. However, if Sen. Reid brings the House resolution to the floor for a vote by the Senate while the Democrats still have a majority, and they vote not to convict Holder and remove him from office (which is the most likely result). The GOP can go "See how corrupt the Senate Democrats are? Covering for their own yet again."

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Old 11-16-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Of course it depends entirely on the Democrats.
Actually, no. It depends entirely on John Boehner letting it even get to the floor.
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Actually, no. It depends entirely on John Boehner letting it even get to the floor.
After spending millions on a 10 to 11 month investigation and hearings on the matter, if it passes the House Judiciary Committee, why would Boehner block the vote? If cannot be debated or filibustered, and it only requires a simple majority to pass.
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Old 11-16-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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Actually, Fast and Furious was a program to try to track gun movements in order to stop trafficking. While it may have been a flawed program it was not a high crime nor misdemeanor.

Once again, the GOP wastes time with votes that have no chance of going anywhere.



I gather it was flawed because...........they were not tracked.
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