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View Poll Results: Do you believe that the economy is improving?
I Do believe that the economy is improving 29 25.89%
I Don`t believe that the economy is improving 69 61.61%
I Do believe that the unemployment numbers are being cooked 48 42.86%
I Don`t believe that the unemployment numbers are being cooked 11 9.82%
I Do believe the economy will be help by Obamacare and his polices 11 9.82%
I Do believe the economy will be harmed by Obamacare and his polices 52 46.43%
Other 5 4.46%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 112. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-05-2013, 12:37 PM
 
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All other things aside....this country has gotten in the back of the line (that is, behind Europe, India, and Japan) all of which have relegated themselves to a paper shuffling workforce and has tossed out the idea of producing "tangible goods" which are the only products that truly contribute to a positive balance of trade. The end result is low "income," if for no other reason, simply because your currency fails to flourish - especially with regard to the US dollar, which supported a standard of living unequalled in any country of significant size for almost 100 years. I can still remember those Europeans exchanging my American dollars on the black market just 35 years ago. Those US$ were gold. Not so today. You have to wonder why!

More paper shuffling jobs may occur but don't expect it to improve the average American's lot in life. Not likely. It IS a world economy. And in that situation, where your currency ranks is of utmost importance.
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Old 10-05-2013, 12:47 PM
 
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White racism exists. Black racism exists. Immigrants from Africa do very well in America...in fact they average better than the US Average in income. Individuals have the greatest effect over them self. Victim mentality breeds being a victim for life.
Black racism has never manifested in centuries of oppression of whites, chattel slavery of whites at the hands of blacks, taking away your names, yours customs, your religion, your culture. Again, these superficially true statements of yours are a form of deception. Lets see....you can talk about the larger truth that paints one picture....or you can focus on a much smaller picture that is not a microcosm of the whole. Yes....the devil is in the absence details.

Of course African do better in America because they have AFRICAN CULTURE as their foundation. The "African" was purposely stripped from African American culture. Thus, the culture that exist among blacks in America was created here in America and evolved out of the centuries of oppression and abuse from whites. In fact, I used that some point in the thread of another argument. What really keeps blacks down in America is black CULTURE which has been mutated from centuries of oppression. Black culture is like the depleted uranium from Nuclear racism........and whites then use that culture as a justification for further racism against blacks....which makes white racism self perpetuating because it uses the reaction/impact of its racism upon blacks to justify further racism.

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Old 10-05-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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Black racism has never manifested in centuries of oppression of whites, chattel slavery of whites at the hands of blacks, taking away your names, yours customs, your religion, your culture. Again, these superficially true statements of yours are a form of deception. Lets see....you can talk about the larger truth that paints one picture....or you can focus on a much smaller picture that is not a microcosm of the whole. Yes....the devil is in the absence details.

Of course African do better in America because they have AFRICAN CULTURE as their foundation. The "African" was purposely stripped from African American culture. Thus, the culture that exist among blacks in America was created here in America and evolved out of the centuries of oppression and abuse from whites. In fact, I used that some point in the thread of another argument. What really keeps blacks down in America is black CULTURE which has been mutated from centuries of oppression. Black culture is like the depleted uranium from Nuclear racism........and whites then use that culture as a justification for further racism against blacks....which makes white racism self perpetuating because it uses the reaction/impact of its racism upon blacks to justify further racism.
save it, no one is listen, and if they to its to ridicule and mock you..is 2013, get over it.
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:04 PM
 
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Liberals say Yes
Conservatives say No
What do Moderates say?
Both parties suck. Because both are dominated by the loony fringes and controlled by the same elites in the background.
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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Improving for whom? Compared to what?
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Old 10-05-2013, 02:07 PM
 
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What really keeps blacks down in America is black CULTURE which has been mutated from centuries of oppression. Black culture is like the depleted uranium from Nuclear racism........and whites then use that culture as a justification for further racism against blacks....which makes white racism self perpetuating because it uses the reaction/impact of its racism upon blacks to justify further racism.
On that we agree. I would add that the "Great Society" has compounded the problem.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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Black racism has never manifested in centuries of oppression of whites
That is all I need to know - to know that you live on a different planet - discussing with you is pointless.
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Old 10-05-2013, 03:20 PM
 
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Black racism has never manifested in centuries of oppression of whites, chattel slavery of whites at the hands of blacks, taking away your names, yours customs, your religion, your culture. Again, these superficially true statements of yours are a form of deception. Lets see....you can talk about the larger truth that paints one picture....or you can focus on a much smaller picture that is not a microcosm of the whole. Yes....the devil is in the absence details.

Of course African do better in America because they have AFRICAN CULTURE as their foundation. The "African" was purposely stripped from African American culture. Thus, the culture that exist among blacks in America was created here in America and evolved out of the centuries of oppression and abuse from whites. In fact, I used that some point in the thread of another argument. What really keeps blacks down in America is black CULTURE which has been mutated from centuries of oppression. Black culture is like the depleted uranium from Nuclear racism........and whites then use that culture as a justification for further racism against blacks....which makes white racism self perpetuating because it uses the reaction/impact of its racism upon blacks to justify further racism.
..Really? get over it its 2013.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:30 PM
 
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That is all I need to know - to know that you live on a different planet - discussing with you is pointless.
Yes...we are on a different plane of reason. You like looking at photos, that only show points of time, while I like looking at the videos, which shows what led up to the image at the point in time of your snapshot. You see when one wants to DEFINE a condition or event, the truth of what really happened can get in the way of the narrative. Hence, the goal becomes to suppress the video evidence which shows the chronology of events and which actions beget reactions in the chain of events which lead to a moment in time, because it threatens the ability to control/distort the narrative.

Say a guy is walking down the street minding his own business and out of nowhere someone jumps from behind a building and just starts beating an innocent victim. Then the innocent victim starts fighting back and punches the attacker in the face in self defense. Now......one can show up with a camera at the moment the victim punches back....and take that snap shot. From that snap shot it can then be argued, by the defense, that the perpetrator was actually the victim of the attack. That is because the snap shot only captures a moment in time and really does not tell the whole story but allows the picture to tell the story and the observation, at face value, makes the victim look like the bad guy....while the perpetrator looks like the victim. Bingo! Just what the true guilty wants.

That is what happens generally when whites tell the story about race. They just want to take snap shots of whats going on now.....because at face value it makes black people look like the naturally dysfunctional bad guys, while it hides all the bad stuff that white society had been doing to blacks prior to those snapshots. Thus, the goal is to keep the video out of the court of public discourse and opinion, lest it expose who the real bad guys have been and who the real victims are. Thus, they have to discredit the video of events via any means necessary and any who who seeks to play the video.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:49 PM
 
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Yes...we are on a different plane of reason. You like looking at photos, that only show points of time, while I like looking at the videos, which shows what led up to the image at the point in time of your snapshot. You see when one wants to DEFINE a condition or event, the truth of what really happened can get in the way of the narrative. Hence, the goal becomes to suppress the video evidence which shows the chronology of events and which actions beget reactions in the chain of events which lead to a moment in time, because it threatens the ability to control/distort the narrative.

Say a guy is walking down the street minding his own business and out of nowhere someone jumps from behind a building and just starts beating an innocent victim. Then the innocent victim starts fighting back and punches the attacker in the face in self defense. Now......one can show up with a camera at the moment the victim punches back....and take that snap shot. From that snap shot it can then be argued, by the defense, that the perpetrator was actually the victim of the attack. That is because the snap shot only captures a moment in time and really does not tell the whole story but allows the picture to tell the story and the observation, at face value, makes the victim look like the bad guy....while the perpetrator looks like the victim. Bingo! Just what the true guilty wants.

That is what happens generally when whites tell the story about race. They just want to take snap shots of whats going on now.....because at face value it makes black people look like the naturally dysfunctional bad guys, while it hides all the bad stuff that white society had been doing to blacks prior to those snapshots. Thus, the goal is to keep the video out of the court of public discourse and opinion, lest it expose who the real bad guys have been and who the real victims are. Thus, they have to discredit the video of events via any means necessary and any who who seeks to play the video.
Hey we only see what is in front of us.
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