Obama Disingenuous on Keystone Pipeline Jobs - ignores his administration's own study (environmentalists, border)
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Canada has just announced a west to east pipeline to a new marine refinery to be built by Irvine Oil.
This new pipeline is intended to handle a million barrels of crude per day to supply refineries in the eastern part of Canada that are currently buying crude from, you guessed it, OPEC. This will markedly change the footprint of our energy reliance on no one but ourselves for the foreseeable future.
The government of Canada has finally come to the realization that buying oil from OPEC was akin to Eskimos buying ice from Haiti.
This decision came about in no small part due to the continued waffling by Obama. I just don't want to hear people on CNN complaining about a tanker spill in the Gulf..
A great day for Canada which will eventually bring our product to the global market without being at the whim of the prevailing political climate of a foreign country.
I agree.. let Obama rely on oil.. from Venezuela, Iran and Saudi Arabia, true friends and allies of the U.S.
There is no way in hell I trust that pipeline to be environmentally safe stretching THAT many miles. Hell no. I just can't see it.
Strange - do you realize how many pipelines of inferior design and construction than Keystone are already transporting oodles of oil from Canada to the U.S and within the U.S.. Anyway if you are that much of an environmentalist than I suggest you get rid of your car, don't heat your home if it needs it, don't but practically anything anywhere, and don't fly either.
Not really. You guys are the ones needing the better arguments. After all, is that pipeline being built yet? Nope. Looks like your side is the one that isn't prevailing.
Due to ONE obstinate liar (he campaigned on buying oil from friendly neighbors).
Not really. You guys are the ones needing the better arguments. After all, is that pipeline being built yet? Nope. Looks like your side is the one that isn't prevailing.
Since you seem loath to perform even a modicum of due diligence regarding this topic; I'll do the work for ya.
This last link is very informative and complex but the gist of it gives one a working knowledge of Canadian Tar Sands oil as compared to OTHER bitumen crudes such as Venezuelan and the Californian Kern field crudes. It is a greater green house gas contributer but, it is also acknowledged that research and develpment along with technolgy is ongoing and progressing steadily in reducing those emissions at the mining stage and due to upgrading being improved as we speak it REDUCES the amount of GHG emissions during refinery processes.
In short; any decision to either endorse or prevent it's transport should be based on factual information readily available and the facts are: pipeline safety and evironmental impact history show facotrs far superior to that of ANY other from of transport.
FACT: the buying of Canadian tar sands will continue by those U.S. companies that wish to make a profit upgrading and selling it on the open market. It is left to you to decide which method you prefer it shipped across your country via; rail cars, tanker trucks or the vastly safer, spanking new pipeline.
Just a few paragraphs as I did not want to post the entire article, but the remaining few paragraphs of the article are worth reading.
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The Tar Sands Disaster
February 2012 found that nearly 42 percent of Canadians were opposed. Many of us, in fact, want to see the tar sands industry wound down and eventually stopped, even though it pumps tens of billions of dollars annually into our economy.
The most obvious reason is that tar sands production is one of the world’s most environmentally damaging activities. It wrecks vast areas of boreal forest through surface mining and subsurface production. It sucks up huge quantities of water from local rivers, turns it into toxic waste and dumps the contaminated water into tailing ponds that now cover nearly 70 square miles.
Also, bitumen is junk energy. A joule, or unit of energy, invested in extracting and processing bitumen returns only four to six joules in the form of crude oil. In contrast, conventional oil production in North America returns about 15 joules. Because almost all of the input energy in tar sands production comes from fossil fuels, the process generates significantly more carbon dioxide than conventional oil production.
There is a less obvious but no less important reason many Canadians want the industry stopped: it is relentlessly twisting our society into something we don’t like. Canada is beginning to exhibit the economic and political characteristics of a petro-state.
Just a few paragraphs as I did not want to post the entire article, but the remaining few paragraphs of the article are worth reading.
IMO...Ecological responsibility and stewardship should trump greed...every time!
Yet you support Obama greedily giving billions of our tax dollars to failed operations like Solyndra, just because those companies are run by his campaign contributors.
Obama very well might be the most disingenuous president in my lifetime...constantly distorting with every speech in his never ending campaign.
He is literally downgrading his estimates of the jobs that the Pipeline would create speech by speech - while ignoring his own State Department's study that claims a significant amount of jobs would be created directly and indirectly.
This is the man that stretched 'ripple' effects throughout the economy creating permanent jobs when it came to his stimulus... He claimed that 4 permanent jobs were created by a one time $500,000 paint job of an Alaskan Airlines plane. Mind you, the plane already had a perfectly fine paint job, however, the new paint job made it look like a salmon! So painting a single plane once...a job that can easily be counted in hours....created 4 permanent jobs. There were these ripple effects through the economy, money spent on paint, the paint producing company has money that they spend, money paid to the painters, they spend the money, etc...
Now, Obama is not only flip flopping on his stimulus logic, he is deliberately ignoring that the pipeline will continuously carry oil to a refinery, where they will hire more people. That refined oil will be transported to market, where the transporters will need to hire more people, etc..etc... HIS OWN STATE DEPARTMENT STUDY AGREES TO THIS. Yet he ignores his own study and is now insisting...50 permanent jobs from the continuous flow of oil...only counting those who will maintain the small part of the line not under construction.
Actually it's about 35 ... so Obama bloated the number up some.
Strange - do you realize how many pipelines of inferior design and construction than Keystone are already transporting oodles of oil from Canada to the U.S and within the U.S.. Anyway if you are that much of an environmentalist than I suggest you get rid of your car, don't heat your home if it needs it, don't but practically anything anywhere, and don't fly either.
Why is it always "either or" with you people? When someone expresses concern over the environment, the right immediately demands they live in caves. It never fails.
Yet you support Obama greedily giving billions of our tax dollars to failed operations like Solyndra, just because those companies are run by his campaign contributors.
Yet you support Obama greedily giving billions of our tax dollars to failed operations like Solyndra, just because those companies are run by his campaign contributors.
You're a hypocrite.
Are you nuts or obtuse? Yes, I support the green energy movement, which is an entirely different topic, so why don't you start that thread?
Question: Why do naysayers always point to the failed companies?
Answer: Because it suits their skewed agenda.
The Solar Industry is Thriving and Solyndra was the Exception Not the Rule.
You should not use the word "Hypocrite" if you do not know the defintion.
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