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Old 06-07-2013, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't understand why taxpayers need to fund union reps full time, why can't they fund their own positions.


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Thirty five federal employees with the U.S. Department
of Transportation are being paid tax-funded salaries averaging more than
$135,000 annually, but they don't do work for the public. They work full-time
for unions.

The 35 and their salary data were obtained by a
conservative political activist group, Americans for Limited Government, which
submitted a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the DOT. A total of
$4.8 million was paid by the government for the full-time salaries of the union
officials.

"It is obscene that in one department alone, taxpayers
are being stuck with almost $5 million in public employee union salary costs,"
said Bill Wilson, ALG's president. "These unions collect member dues and should
pay for their own employees."

Twenty one of the 35 are officials of the National Air
Traffic Controllers Association, with eight of the 21 being paid in excess of
$170,000, according to ALG
Taxpayers funding 35 six-figure union chiefs at Transportation Department | WashingtonExaminer.com

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Two Republican senators on Wednesday raised concerns about Veterans Affairs
employees who spend all their federally paid work time on union activities while
the agency tries to plow through a massive claims backlog





Sen. Tom Coburn (Okla.) and
Sen. Rob Portman (Ohio) questioned the practice Wednesday in a letter to VA
Secretary Eric Shinseki, asking for
details on how many employees spend 100 percent of their paid time on
union-related work — known as “official time” — and whether the agency has had
to hire new employees to cover their formal job duties, among other details.





The senators noted that 188 VA employees worked entirely on official time
between January 2012 and February 2013. The Federal Eye confirmed that number
with documents that the conservative group Americans for Limited Government
obtained through a Freedom of Information Act request.
Sens. Coburn and Portman question VA ‘official time’ for union activities
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Old 06-08-2013, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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That seems amazing, but I wonder if it is not fairly common for public sector union officials to be paid by taxpayer dollars. I remember a report that the head of the Seattle Police union, who is an SPD sergeant, is paid over $100K. He works full time on union stuff. He never works a shift as a cop, yet he is paid by taxpayers.

Why not--the whole public sector union thing is a kickback scheme and fraud anyway.
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Old 06-08-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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Public unions should be abolished.


The case against public sector unionism
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Old 06-08-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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This is the true face of Liberalism and the Democratic Party. They will loot the bank and laugh about it. There is no middle ground with those people.
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Old 06-08-2013, 01:46 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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This is the true face of Liberalism and the Democratic Party. They will loot the bank and laugh about it. There is no middle ground with those people.
Really? This liberal democrat doesn't support this. I bet you'll find many who agree with me. If you care-- which you probably don't and just for any opportunity to screed against 'dem socialists.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Pa
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The problem with using a broad brush is that it will cost you credibility. I am basically an old school conservative, yet I believe in gay rights, a woman's choice for abortion and social programs for children. I agree with many so called liberals on thee forum.
So when someone claims that liberals believe or democrats believe I normally chalk it up to hardliner rhetoric.
Do all liberals support obvious waste or special interest waste? NO some perhaps and some will justify it based on party lines. Party hardliners.... Not true liberals.
Do modern conservatives support any and all military spending regardless of what it is for? NO hardliners might but not a true conservative.
I can't imagine any but hardliners supporting tax payer paid 6 figure salaries to union reps.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:13 PM
 
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Their title is not a union position, it's a regular position, they just happen to hold union office.

You don't know much about unions. Union reps are actual workers elected by their co-workers. My friend is a truck driver, drives trucks 60 hours a week, and he's a union rep also. His union rep time is minimal and it's done after he clocks out or on his lunch break. Union rep doesn't take 40 hours a week.

The article is bs.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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Their title is not a union position, it's a regular position, they just happen to hold union office.

You don't know much about unions. Union reps are actual workers elected by their co-workers. My friend is a truck driver, drives trucks 60 hours a week, and he's a union rep also. His union rep time is minimal and it's done after he clocks out or on his lunch break. Union rep doesn't take 40 hours a week.

The article is bs.
No, it's not bs. I also have a good friend who is a union steward. He gets paid regular pay whilst doing union work. In other words, he does all union work on company time.

Anyone associated with a union doing union work should be paid out of union dues. Let the idiots pay for their people. This is triple true with public union employees.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:25 PM
 
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No, it's not bs. I also have a good friend who is a union steward. He gets paid regular pay whilst doing union work. In other words, he does all union work on company time.

Anyone associated with a union doing union work should be paid out of union dues. Let the idiots pay for their people. This is triple true with public union employees.
Your good friends are slackers?? Says a lot about you. My friends are responsible.
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Old 06-09-2013, 05:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by Don Draper View Post
Their title is not a union position, it's a regular position, they just happen to hold union office.

You don't know much about unions. Union reps are actual workers elected by their co-workers. My friend is a truck driver, drives trucks 60 hours a week, and he's a union rep also. His union rep time is minimal and it's done after he clocks out or on his lunch break. Union rep doesn't take 40 hours a week.

The article is bs.
There are some union reps that work part of the time but that is not the case in either article mentioned, these are full time positions. These are federal government union reps, not private unions as you mentioned.

The article is accurate, rather than your single anecdotal reference.
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