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Old 06-09-2013, 07:24 AM
 
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When you can't get the big wins the little wins are still important.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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When you can't get the big wins the little wins are still important.
I agree,but we CAN win the big ones too if the flotsam and jetsam would be voted in or out by their voting records...Americans are to stupid to stick together,to envious of someone getting ahead and to greedy to care about others to ever get the job done though I'm afraid....one track minds rule the day.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Their title is not a union position, it's a regular position, they just happen to hold union office.

You don't know much about unions. Union reps are actual workers elected by their co-workers. My friend is a truck driver, drives trucks 60 hours a week, and he's a union rep also. His union rep time is minimal and it's done after he clocks out or on his lunch break. Union rep doesn't take 40 hours a week.

The article is bs.
There you go, educating people who have no idea. This has been standard practice forever, not only in public unions but in private ones too. It's an agreed upon relationship in the contract and it makes sense. The union member is an employee and must be able to represent members on work time. How otherwise could the official go to arbitration meetings, hearings and contract negotiations if they couldn't do it during work hours?
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Public unions should be abolished.


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This is the true face of Liberalism and the Democratic Party. They will loot the bank and laugh about it. There is no middle ground with those people.
I think both of you should give a little bit more deference to unions -- you know, the people who won you the weekend.

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Old 06-09-2013, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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I think both of you should have a little bit more deference to unions -- you know, the people who won you the weekend.

lols.

Nothing but union gibberish.

Check U.S. Census data. The average worker in the United States was working around 40 hours a week a couple decades before the unions "gave us the weekend."

I like the way pro-union people just make **** up and never expect to be challenged. They also ignore Census data about wages, child labor, hours, etc....as it proves they had nothing to do with any of it. lols.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:56 AM
 
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There you go, educating people who have no idea. This has been standard practice forever, not only in public unions but in private ones too. It's an agreed upon relationship in the contract and it makes sense. The union member is an employee and must be able to represent members on work time. How otherwise could the official go to arbitration meetings, hearings and contract negotiations if they couldn't do it during work hours?
If the union rep is representing union members, then the UNION should be paying the bill. This would be no different than hiring a lawyer who also represents the defendant you are suing..

It would be beyond dumb, but once again, here you are defending stupidity.
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:57 AM
 
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I think both of you should have a little bit more deference to unions -- you know, the people who won you the weekend.
Ignorance knowns no bounds with you.

The weekends were in place decades prior to unions obtaining legal authority..

FAIL..
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Old 06-09-2013, 07:59 AM
 
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lols.

Nothing but union gibberish.

Check U.S. Census data. The average worker in the United States was working around 40 hours a week a couple decades before the unions "gave us the weekend."

I like the way pro-union people just make **** up and never expect to be challenged. They also ignore Census data about wages, child labor, hours, etc....as it proves they had nothing to do with any of it. lols.
Correct, the 40 hour work week became standard when Henry Ford figured out that having employees work 8 hours a day, and not 10, would allow his factories to stay open 24 hours a day..

Unions didnt obtain legal authority until about 20 years later..

It was corporate greed that gave us 40 hour work weeks...
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Old 06-09-2013, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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There have been dozens upon dozens of threads attacking the foodstamp program, which actually is paid for in the farm subsidy bills you discussed.

Wait, you just criticized the spending on these programs and then in the very same paragraph you whined because people want them cut
Only thing I whine about is the taking away from American people...as far as I personally am concerned if every single penny I pay in taxes is given to a hungry AMERICAN family,I wouldn't lose a seconds sleep over it..I don't lose any sleep over it,but I do begrudge my tax dollars going to waste on neoCon nation building,corporate farms,business subsidies,oil comapanies etc etc...subsidizing business and farms goes right straight against what you guys are SUPPOSED to believe in...capitalism...its unAmerican no matter how you paint it.

As for the farm bill,that is the way pork bills are passed and you should know that as well as I do.
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Old 06-09-2013, 08:04 AM
 
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Only thing I whine about is the taking away from American people...as far as I personally am concerned if every single penny I pay in taxes is given to a hungry AMERICAN family,I wouldn't lose a seconds sleep over it..I don't lose any sleep over it,but I do begrudge my tax dollars going to waste on neoCon nation building,corporate farms,business subsidies,oil comapanies etc etc...subsidizing business and farms goes right straight against what you guys are SUPPOSED to believe in...capitalism...its unAmerican no matter how you paint it.

As for the farm bill,that is the way pork bills are passed and you should know that as well as I do.
Somewhere around 90% of the farm subsidy bill is for food stamps assistance.. Thats not pork, its the purpose of the bill
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