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Tax exemption isn't a right. An organization has to demonstrate it meets the criteria. Granting the exemption is a form of government welfare. We the taxpayers are forgiving the taxes an organization might have to have paid. That increases our individual tax burden. If a legitimate charity has to comply with these laws, so should RWNJ and extremist, anti-American organizations.
Wagenmaker added, “The IRS’s role should only be to determine whether organizations fit the section 501(c)(3) test for ‘charitable, religious, or educational’ qualification, not to inquire about the content of prayers, protests, and petitions. It’s high time that the IRS be called to account for its workers’ potential to trample on our constitutional rights, through such ostensibly innocuous means…what the Ways and Means committee will discuss may only be the tip of the iceberg of IRS abuses.”
I would think that determining whether the organizations fit the 501-c-3 test actually requires an inquiry about the content of prayers, protests, and petitions. How else do you determine if a group qualifies?
DC, it has already been determined that the IRS went well beyond what is allowable by law. They have even admitted that.
The question is how did it get started and who knew.
Actually, there is a lot of evidence that these groups are involved in political activism. Karl Rove's group--not involved in political activism????? Americans For Prosperity----not involved in political activism??? Move-on.org---not involved in political activism??? The IRS was determining that these groups weren't primarily involved in political activism. Else they wouldn't qualify for exemption as a 503-c group which allows them to keep their donors secret. And PAC's don't always call themselves PAC's. Which is why the IRS investigates applicants.
My point is that not even a limited amount should be allowed. All groups that involve themselves in the political machinery, from the major parties to the lowliest lobbyist, should leave a well-documented, transparent trail of their activities that should be available to the public.
The discussion of whether or not tax reform is needed isn't the topic here. It's whether or not it's O.K. to unfairly target these organizations.
I've not seen a single accusation that any of these groups did anything outside of what they were allowed. Besides that, this was before their status was even granted so it would have been impossible at that point for them to have done anything to bring this sort of scrutiny when other groups more aligned with Obama were not.
All news outlets. The IRS admitted it. The IRS targeted conservative 501 (c)(4) groups and prolonged their applications with additional review. That is the main issue. There was no similar harassment of liberal groups per the IRS IG 54 page report.
Scrutinizing qualification for a tax exempt status is "harassment"? Wow, I guess the IRS harasses thousands upon thousands of applicants a year.
How about the IRS bring up criminal investigation of the members of SCOTUS that brought us the Citizens United decision. That decision seems to be the criminal part is this IRS scandal.
How about the IRS bring up criminal investigation of the members of SCOTUS that brought us the Citizens United decision. That decision seems to be the criminal part is this IRS scandal.
The left tried to float that argument and it sunk.
Would Obama have won the election without all the corruption of the Obama administration? Sadly, Americans will never know the answer to that question.
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DC, it has already been determined that the IRS went well beyond what is allowable by law. They have even admitted that.
The question is how did it get started and who knew.
Actually, they went beyond what is prescribed by the law. There aren't any laws that actually limit the questions the IRS can ask when making a determination if an organization qualifies for non-exempt status. Such laws would be ridiculous, as every organization is unique, and the law has no hard-and-fast formulas for such a determination. The problem is how the IRS determined which organizations merited extra scrutiny, which was clearly a biased methodology, and who permitted this methodology to be used. I'll be interested to see how this "scandal" progresses. And I am outraged by the IRS's actions, because political bias should not play a part in any of their deliberations, but even more, because these actions were plainly and simply STUPID. And I just hate it when the government, with the resources it has available, and with the responsibility that has been entrusted to it, does STUPID things.
Yeah but they made up for it with the quick approvals of left leaning groups.
Obama's brother got his approved in 1 month.
How do you figure that a group whose activities are in Kenya, building houses and churches, is a left-leaning group?
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