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Old 03-03-2013, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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Among the younger generation, the Republican stance on social issues is so toxic that a lot of people who more often than not vote Republican (mainly on economic issues) identify as /call themselves independents or libertarians instead, to make it clear they do not support the republican party on stuff like wanting to ban abortion, being against gay-marriage, not caring enough about the environment, etc.

Meanwhile, younger people who only support the Republicans moderately on economic issues tend to either vote for Democrats based on social ones or just not bother voting at all.

Granted I live in the Northeast, maybe things are different down South.
Yeah. Young people don't vote in large enough numbers to count.

And they tend to become more conservative as they get older. That's also when they start voting.

In other words, no politician or political party gives a crap about young people or what they think.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by OhioRules
Well maybe they aren't on this board but moderate republicans haven't gone anywhere.

Look at who Republicans nominate for Prez:

George H.W. Bush (twice)
Bob Dole
George W. Bush (twice)
John McCain
Mitt Romney

The moderate republicans are alive and well and running the party.


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Into the ground.
The word "moderate" must have confused you. I thought it was the extremists, and the tea party that were running the Republican party into the ground.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:19 AM
 
Location: NJ
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And it hard to move to the right of W. since he is basically a Democrat that calls himself a Republican.
LOL! Gore would have responded to 9/11 in a much more tepid way. W was pro life. W , right or wrong, staunchly advocated tax cuts.

The one area W was not conservative on was in not funding the wars he fought to start.

W followed a Dem who was farther right than the Dems of prior decades (Welfare Reform was a pre 92 BC wish he campaigned on, Sister Soulah, limited government) , and Americans failed to recognize that is why they were fairly similar in many ways. Moving further right was a political death spiral for any candiidate. America wasn't further right than, or now.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Columbus, OH
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W was comfortable with Latinos and won twice. Yet, his base won't vote for him because he is comfortable with Latinos? lols.

If you look at all levels of government, local, state and federal you will discover that more latinos are elected as Republicans than as Democrats. So why do you think Republicans wouldn't vote for someone that is comfortable with Latinos. They vote for Latinos more than Democrats.

And Republicans seem to want Marco Rubio to run for Prez. Don't tell anyone, but he's Latino.
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Rubio is the new candy bar, a fad, just like Jindal, the hot item a few years ago, yesterdays' news now.

On the local level, the GOP focuses on fiscal campaigns, and win. On the national, they do the inverse.
So you contend Republicans won't vote for candidates that are friendly with Latinos.

I show you how elections results PROVE latinos are more likely to be elected as Republicans than Democrats.

You say that doesn't count because (insert excuses here). lols.

I can no longer argue wth your logic. You win.

Good day.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Moderate Republicans seem to be all but gone. What happened to the Eisenhower Republicans?
Hopefully, we all got a clue and became independents and libertarians.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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Bingo.

I'd say they should shrink and only worry about immigration, nuetral foreign realtions and some sort of military (which probably could be cut in half from what we have now).

If you never checked out Lew Rockwell's website you should. There's a lot of good stuff about economics on there. And the articles aren't all bogged down with nonsensical made up economc crap like "predetory lending" lols.
I know about Lew Rockwell. I agree with him on many fundamental issues. However he would have no answer to say Germany and Japan. He says that the Fed is what allows huge military build up . The problem is what happens when those countries attack you? The US abandoned the gold standard during WWII and had they not done so, would have lost it. It also does imply that lack of liquidity does cause real output loss. Now I have my uses for Austrian economists but they do not have all the answers. They seem a little blind to monopoly rents.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:21 AM
 
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Well maybe they aren't on this board but moderate republicans haven't gone anywhere.

Look at who Republicans nominate for Prez:

George H.W. Bush (twice)
Bob Dole
George W. Bush (twice)
John McCain
Mitt Romney

The moderate republicans are alive and well and running the party.
Exactly.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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Mitt the moderate would have DEFENDED Perry when he was callously jeered for trying to explain the reasonable policies towards educating children of illegals he believed in. Mitt, fearing your radical right, moved to join the crowd.

Leaders lead, they don't follow/join.

A moderate would have admonished the "Let em die" cheer at the debate-Re: the uninsured question. When Mitt had his chance to speak, he said nothing about that impropriety.
I stopped reading after Mitt the moderate. He is a plutocrat.
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Moderate Republicans seem to be all but gone. What happened to the Eisenhower Republicans?
I think there may be more than you know. I consider myself to border on moderate to conservative but not too the right or right by anymeans. I am very moderate when it comes to most social issues, I am conservative when it comes to most fiscal issues. Isn't that what you are referring to?
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Old 03-03-2013, 11:24 AM
 
Location: 9851 Meadowglen Lane, Apt 42, Houston Texas
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A person who doesn't compromise his morals will always be seen as extreme. A person who compromises his morals will be seen as moderate.

Extreme = moral. Moderate = immoral.
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