Are there any Moderate Republicans on this board? (rating, goverment, state)
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I'm not a neocon. I'm against war in all cases except when we are attacked directly by a military
Then you're one of those people who falls through the cracks. Because saying you're against foreign intervention now, combined with saying you're in favor of FDR and LBJ's policies earlier then puts you at odds in one way or another with virtually all conservatives. The types of things FDR and LBJ did (on poverty, not civil rights) are pretty much a dealbreaker for every other classification of conservatives I know of. While various conservatives disagree on various things, one thing they are pretty much united on is limited government. The only conservative group that breaks that mold I know of is the neocons who are themselves pretty much united on supporting aggressive foreign policy.
I do not respect people who are avowedly pro-life because of religion. This is not a theocracy.
I want abortion to be illegal because the fetus at any stage is still a human life with its own unique DNA. Any point picked to mark when it becomes a "person" is completely arbitrary and thus I feel it just shouldn't be allowed. I don't care about religion, I care about the principle that nobody should unnecessarily terminate a human life except the person living that life. I don't support abortion, I don't support the death penalty, I don't support "pulling the plug" unless the person has left instructions to pull the plug. On the other hand, I do support doctor assisted suicide for terminally ill patients and do support abortion when the health of the mother is at stake. I feel the only justification for killing someone else is self defense. And yes that is a question of legislating morality but so is every law against victimizing others so I feel no more guilty for wanting to ban abortion than I do for wanting to ban robbery, rape, or theft. And the "don't want abortion don't get one" and "abortion is against womens rights" arguments" are illegitimate - we've already accepted the legitimacy of restricting peoples' actions in this society when those actions cause harm or death.
Anyway, I don't want to turn this into an abortion debate. I say that to illustrate that the opposite of what you say is also true. You can be pro life without wanting to ban abortion, but you can also want to ban abortion simply as a consequence of it being a violent act in a society that doesn't permit violence, without having the typical "it's immoral" type pro life feelings about abortion in and of itself. I want to ban abortion for the same reason I want to ban credit card fraud. I have no problems with you thinking I am extreme for that if you want. That's a matter of opinion and you're entitled to yours just as everyone else is. But I think that labeling a Republican as an extreme Republican for wanting to ban abortion is not right. Because at that point your reference point shifts from your own opinion to the standards of the Republican party. And while banning abortion may be extreme to you, it is mainstream within the Republican party.
What? I never said what you claim I did. In fact I said that someone wanting to ban abortion and someone who opposes it may not be the same people. Many of the Republicans do want to ban it not because of religion (which I respect and would agree with)but because many of them don't like women. Case in point many of those who want to outlaw abortion also don't support the equal pay bills that have been floating around. To me someone like this doesn't like women and abortion isn't even a thought to them except limited women.
However if someone opposes abortion and truly believes in what they say I have no issue. I had a teacher who opposed abortion because of religion but by the same token helped pregnant women so I consider him pro life. Much different than the politicians who want to ban abortion, don't support equal pay and want to cut welfare for the women forced to endure pregnancies. I'm not crazy about abortion myself and can't understand aborting except in cases of rape/incest or health of the mother.
W was comfortable with Latinos and won twice. Yet, his base won't vote for him because he is comfortable with Latinos? lols.
If you look at all levels of government, local, state and federal you will discover that more latinos are elected as Republicans than as Democrats. So why do you think Republicans wouldn't vote for someone that is comfortable with Latinos. They vote for Latinos more than Democrats.
And Republicans seem to want Marco Rubio to run for Prez. Don't tell anyone, but he's Latino.
It would be nice if just one time a leftie could make a valid criticism about the Republican nonsense instead of just repeating silly lies by that Racheal Madow fella on MSNBC. Just one time.
P.S. I'm not a Republican, Democrat, Libertarian or moderate. But keep up the childish "your wing nuts" comments. It make you sound intelligent.
Then you're one of those people who falls through the cracks. Because saying you're against foreign intervention now, combined with saying you're in favor of FDR and LBJ's policies earlier then puts you at odds in one way or another with virtually all conservatives. The types of things FDR and LBJ did (on poverty, not civil rights) are pretty much a dealbreaker for every other classification of conservatives I know of. While various conservatives disagree on various things, one thing they are pretty much united on is limited government. The only conservative group that breaks that mold I know of is the neocons who are themselves pretty much united on supporting aggressive foreign policy.
Then it's safe to say, I don't have a label. I'm a true independent then the type of voter that both parties trip all over themselves trying to get
I voted for him. I am critical of many things that he has done. I don't believe we should be using drone strikes. I don't agree with executive orders...for any president. I believe we should have gotten out of Iraq a lot sooner and I don't believe we should still be in Afghanistan or continue to have people in guantanomo. I believe that social security disablility has become the new welfare under Obama. I have many problems with Obama.
It is kind of the point of the thread. I used to be a moderate Republican. If there were actually a moderate Republican in the Republican party, I would strongly consider voting for them.
I agree on almost every point. I would not rule out drone strikes as an absolute, as in unusual circumstances they may be prudent, but I am uncomfotable with using them as Standard Operating Procedure. An example of the former would be I'd have no issue with using drones on a known terrorist training camp if it avoided US casualties, but once the region was safe enough to break up such a camp conventionally, that method should be used instead.
There is a moderate: Chris Christie, 74% approval rating to boot.
It seems like every Dem on this board is a flaming Obama-style Progressive out to destroy/remake evil racist America.
JFK used federal forces to integrate public schools. Can you imagine if Obama had to do that? These conspiracy theorist junkies would be talking Marshall law and dictatorship. Hell, they are already doing that.
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