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Old 12-11-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Once again with the games. Try and at least be a little specific, because my side is about ensuring our Constitutional rights and freedoms are protected, while your side wants to limit our rights and freedoms and have them dictated to us, just as they do in China. In China, the people do not have natural rights, they only have what the government will allow them to have.
Specifics are merely words when you run out of arguments. Specifics such as villifying pollution controls/EPA rules, minimum wages, child labor laws... pretty much anything that a typical business demands.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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We don't either. We excepted fracking from Clean Water Act (for example), and wish to follow China rather than our own experiences why pollution regulations exist here, but not there. BTW, do they have minimum wage requirement in China? Regulations to ensure businesses don't take workers for a ride? The kinds of things seen as abomination by the right wingers here?
I am so reminded of the late 1980's where Japan was about to purchase America and they were so prosperous, so rich, it was calculated where the land occupied by the Imperial Palace in Tokyo (1.32 sq, miles) was worth more than the entire State of California. The Japanese were buying anything and everything including the Pebble Beach golf resort.

It was obvious to one and all that America was finished, that it was the Empire of Japan that won the second world war after all.

You see what Japan had that America didn't have was a "partnership between government and private business".

And then it all collapsed and it hasn't recovered since.

And I will just say it, whoever believes the path China is on will continue is a blubbering idiot and that includes stupid man Imelt.

China is on a road to destruction and it won't be pretty when it gets arrives either.

Pollution is monumental.

Here is what central planning by government does.

BBC News - China's ghost towns and phantom malls

Adrienne Arsenault: Ghost city shows cracks in China's urban planning - World - CBC News

How would you like a piece of this real estate bubble?


China's Ghost Cities and Malls - YouTube

With central planning we could do the same thing. Put all our construction workers by to work and all we got to do is have the federal government finance a city for 1 million people every month, 12 million per year, in the middle of...... Nebraska! When Nebraska has a couple new cities we'll move on and put one in Kansas followed by Oklahoma and Iowa.

Workers rights? Go on strike in China and you are likely to be beaten near to death by a dozen cops at one time.

Problem in Communist China is they are more capitalist than we are. Imagine being hired in on a job only to be expected to live in dormitory style housing units not unlike what we had in college?

Pollution? Check out the air quality on the youtube video. Imagine if a million people lived there.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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And then it all collapsed and it hasn't recovered since.
Japan's greatest struggle has been to get out of deflation. It is still the second largest foreign lender to US debt, though.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:17 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I always thought it to be a double standard in the USA to detest Communism yet have no problem endorsing their Communist system by flocking to all the big box stores to buy all their Communist made products. Also Americas big business which i assume for the most part is mostly Republican having no qualms at all in relocating American manufacturing plants,factories and jobs to Communist China.


George Carlin ~ The American Dream - YouTube

I love George Carlin.
He puts things in perspective, so eloquently.
I like the Political Correct style he has.... LOL!
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