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Old 10-27-2012, 04:40 PM
 
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So what are you saying? Are you saying there is a chance that people who have formed opinions of guilt are likely to get selected to be on the jury panel? Or that you just don't like for people to form opinions regarding criminal cases prior to trial regardless of whether or not they eventually end up on the jury?

I'm sure you know that during the jury selection process that the judge and attorneys go to great lengths to discover whether or not someone has already formed an opinion about the particular case as well as to be sure that the jury understands the presumption of innocence. Of course, in the Zimmerman case, he has filed an affirmative defense and is therefore required to put on a defense and not simply rely on the presumption of innocence.
Even potential jurors who made such judgments can be selected.

None of this has anything to do with his earlier point, which made assertions about the public-at-large forming judgments about Zimmerman and how that would affect him getting a fair trial.

 
Old 10-27-2012, 04:47 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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Why do you think he will go free? Is there any specific evidence which you believe goes to his lack of guilt?

And, of course, he will be charged with perjury when the time is right. He doesn't have to be charged immediately. It's up to the State Attorney to decide when to file charges. If he's convicted of the murder charges, two things. He could be charged with perjury, plead guilty, and get a concurrent sentence; saves money on going through a trial. If he's found not guilty, he could be charged with perjury at that point, and either take a plea or go to trial; it would be beyond shocking if he were found not guilty of perjury, but I guess it could happen.

This guy has done so much talking, publicly, online, on TV, in video taped by police, I cannot imagine how he would be acquitted. He has made far too many conflicting/contradictory statements to ever be considered credible by a jury. His entire defense rests on "his credibility." Period. He has filed an affirmative defense of self defense, which means that he is required to put on a defense in this trial (which is different than a normal trial where the defendant is presumed innocent and NOT REQUIRED to put on any defense, and may remain silent). The jury would have to find this man totally credible to find him not guilty.

Also, he's living like a hermit right now because of the restrictions imposed by the conditions of his bail. He is ALLOWED to go very few places, wears an ankle monitor, and must have prior permission to leave home.
There is just about no evidence to suggest the zim committed cold blooded murder, everything the prosecution has is circumstancial, that's what I base my opinion upon. The entire investigation from the very beginning is very weak. (it stinks) The police and detectives didn't do the jobs they were tasked with. It's as if they bungled the investigation like the LA cops bungled the oj homicide investigation. They barely went to ask for eye witnesses, if they ever did at all.

Let me be clear in my feelings here though, I think it was wrong for zim to play cop and executioner. He should have called police instead of taking matters into his own hands.
 
Old 10-27-2012, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The preponderance of the evidence suggests to me that Zimmerman was on his back, getting an ass whupping, when he fired the fatal shot. The fact that his actions inflamed Martin into (most likely) initiating the physical altercation does not seem to me to matter. People have irritated the hell out of me without me attacking them.

I do feel such careless actions by a man in possession of a handgun should have some penalty attached to it. You don't just chase someone around, without any evidence they are involved in wrongdoing, without inviting tragedy, particularly when you are armed. Cinebar once stated it was akin to vehicular homicide, I agree.
 
Old 11-22-2012, 12:35 PM
 
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:31 PM
 
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:45 PM
 
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I personally hope he walks. Scott free.

That would pave the way for him to get the justice he really deserves. Lotta guys on the streets will wanna test him and see how much heart he REALLY has. I'm betting that he's soft.
 
Old 11-30-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I think he'll be acquitted of all charges, but if he does go free, he won't really be free, word has it all over the web that he's living like a hermit, and I don't think that'll change if set free.
He'll probably be shacking up with Casey Anthony...
 
Old 12-03-2012, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Tyrone
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/03/justic...html?hpt=hp_c1

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Bayou City
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Only thing the new photos prove is that Zimmerman and Martin got into a fight, and that Martin got in a couple of good licks before the coward decided to end it with the gun.
 
Old 12-03-2012, 05:04 PM
 
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zimmerman being beat up doesnt do much to sway me. trayvon beating zimmerman was essentially trayvon standing his ground and defending himself.

we know this wouldve been avoided if zimmerman didnt follow him which is why i have no sympathy for zimmerman.
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