Some stats: Welfare pays better than minimum wage in 40 states (insurance, cost)
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I don't know about Texas but in a lot of California the unemployment rate is 10% or more. Nice place to throw the destitute on the labor market to sink or swim...
NEVER??? Considering the eligibility for "welfare" over a lifetime is FIVE years you'd have to be a mouse to believe that 5 years is eternity.
Some of you conveniently count only that one big free cash giveaway program as welfare but conveniently leave out the free house with free utilities, the free school meals, the free babysitting centers called head start -- also with free meals, the free health care, the free food stamps and much more that the welfare class receives. In fact if you qualify for one government handout program, you pretty much qualify for them all.
TANF should be eliminated completely, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to give the welfare reciepients cash in addition to all the other handouts they get.
When you add up the free housing with all the free utilities, the free government provided cell phone servies, the free health care -- no premiums, no copays, no deductibles, the food stamps, WIC coupons, free meals at schools, free day care, the clothing allowance, welfare actually "pays" more than the average job --- more than $12 an hour, for many welfare recipients, welfare beats out working for $15 or $20 an hour.
In the hiostory of the USA, people that needed welfare lined up at the courthouse for a handout on Saturday mornings. Plus their name was published in the local newspaper. Remember, that's redistribution. Obama has economized this process to in include 50% of his voters. Good Luck.
In the hiostory of the USA, people that needed welfare lined up at the courthouse for a handout on Saturday mornings. Plus their name was published in the local newspaper. Remember, that's redistribution. Obama has economized this process to in include 50% of his voters. Good Luck.
Not quite, not paying taxes doesn't mean you're on welfare. I claim my child on my taxes and get a credit for that - is that welfare?
Didn't read the whole thread but the link in the OP in some BS on "welfare." It actually was pretty funny that people believe it to.
Saw this below and it is true:
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Originally Posted by ovcatto
Since your source states that 19.6% have received Aid To Dependent Children (AFDC) for more than five years, would it be rude of me to point out that AFDC was repealed in 1996 and replaced by Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF)?
AFDC had no time limit on benefits, TANF limits benefits to 5 years in a lifetime.
The OP link must be really old as AFDC is not around anymore. Also, in regards to actual TANF benefits, meaning a "welfare check" the highest amount I have ever seen in any state is MN and I think it is under $700 a month for a family of 3 (single mom with 2 kids), so to say that they are making more than minimum wage is some BS as well.
Let me dig around for highest TANF amounts per state.
From the source, there is a chart that shows the amount of benefits per state from 1996 to 2010. I was incorrect in that Alaska has the highest TANF benefits at $923 but it hasn't gone up since 1996. Also it is less than federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour for 40 hours per week which would gross you a little less than $1200 a month full time. None of the states have TANF benefits that surpass any minimum wage. Check out AL, the first one, their benefit is $215 a month. Screws you view of all the poverty stricken people living it up on all your hard earned money.
Tried to post the chart but I am not very techy and couldn't figure it out but you can hit the link and see all the data for TANF. They even have a chart that includes SNAP with TANF (SNAP is food stamps for those who don't know). Even with both of these lines of "income" together none of the states surpass the federal poverty level for their "welfare" recipients. Many of you need to get over on the whole welfare thing. Even though I do support restrictions to certain social programs, most importantly family public housing (I work in public housing, which is why I know about these programs, luckily we no longer have the PJs here in Atlanta for families and I think it is a good thing, we only have senior housing and disabled housing now). I think there needs to be adjustments made to Section 8, foodstamps, I think they should get rid of WIC completely. I have a lot of ideas about social services programs, but to say that people on welfare make more than people who work for minimum wage is a flat out lie.
Also people who get the other social services programs I mentioned, most of them work, so do not get TANF, you can only get TANF if you don't have a job and you cannot get unemployment benefits and you have dependent children. There are a lot of restrictions on TANF, which are good and which I think should be replicated in other social services programs. It is just mind boggling though that some of you people are so mad about someone getting $200-$400 a month, which is the average for TANF recipients especially when most of them are off of TANF within 2 years.
Also wanted to point out that the OP says that 15 million Americans are on TANF, that is not true either.
Last edited by residinghere2007; 09-19-2012 at 08:44 PM..
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