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Old 08-12-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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To do many necessary functions, such as driving and getting medical care, you have to have an ID in this country. I really want to know for what VALID reason a US citizen wouldn't have an ID.

I know someone is going to cite cost so I'll go ahead and supply that because I don't see where any of them are prohibitive.
Most last between 4 and 5 years.
Obviously this is about VoterID laws, which are a farse, because fraud doesn't occur in any significant (or even remotely close to) numbers to justify the tens of thousands of people, if not more, that would be disenfranchised by VoterID laws.

Want to stop voter fraud? Start targeting absentee ballots. One person can get an entire household worth of absentee ballots, and vote dozens of times. Not only is it easy to abuse, it is abused.

But like Padcrasher said, you don't need to eliminate every Democrat voter, just a small number, just enough to tip the balances in favor.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:09 AM
 
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In another thread a poster wrote the following:

To do many necessary functions, such as driving and getting medical care, you have to have an ID in this country. I really want to know for what VALID reason a US citizen wouldn't have an ID.

Depends on the definition of "have". Does an expired ID count? If not, why not? Do you become someone else when your ID expires?
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Originally Posted by Oldhag1 View Post
In another thread a poster wrote the following:

To do many necessary functions, such as driving and getting medical care, you have to have an ID in this country. I really want to know for what VALID reason a US citizen wouldn't have an ID.

I know someone is going to cite cost so I'll go ahead and supply that because I don't see where any of them are prohibitive.
Most last between 4 and 5 years.
If I recall, the State of Texas has even offered to put the money up for those who can't afford to buy a picture ID ...

So I'm not seeing what the problem with all of this is ..
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:32 AM
 
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Don't most States already require an ID (outside of the voting issue)?
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:35 AM
 
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Don't most States already require an ID (outside of the voting issue)?
No. There is no mandatory identification card. You are thinking about Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, or Arizona in 10 years
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:36 AM
 
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I don't think so.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:37 AM
 
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I don't think so.
What states have mandatory ID's
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:43 AM
 
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That's what I was asking.
If a cop asks for it doesn't it have to be produced anywhere?
I don't mean driving.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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No. There is no mandatory identification card. You are thinking about Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, or Arizona in 10 years
Aside from your three nonexistent examples, there are many countries which have mandatory ID. And another group which require other acceptable forms of ID....

List of national identity card policies by country - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:59 AM
 
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A note from that same article;

As noted above, certain countries do not have national ID cards, but have other official documents that play the same role in practice (e.g. driver's license for the United States). While a country may not make it de jure compulsory to own or carry an identity document, it may be de facto strongly recommended to do so in order to facilitate certain procedures.
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