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Old 08-12-2012, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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In Oregon everyone one votes by mail, there all you need is a residential address and you can vote. I prefer that method because it allowed me to take my time, read over the issues, and vote correctly. Also, I don't ever recall there being a problem with voter fraud the entire time I lived there.

If everyone needs an ID to vote, then IDs should be free because voting is free and it is illegal to charge people to vote and requiring people to have voter ID is actually forcing people to be charged to vote.

But really, everyone should be voting by mail in by now, that is by far the best system I have ever seen.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:30 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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In Oregon everyone one votes by mail, there all you need is a residential address and you can vote. I prefer that method because it allowed me to take my time, read over the issues, and vote correctly. Also, I don't ever recall there being a problem with voter fraud the entire time I lived there.

If everyone needs an ID to vote, then IDs should be free because voting is free and it is illegal to charge people to vote and requiring people to have voter ID is actually forcing people to be charged to vote.

But really, everyone should be voting by mail in by now, that is by far the best system I have ever seen.
Is Oregon better than Bayonne?
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I've got a way to get rid of this voter ID crap. 80 million plus Americans file and pay their taxes online, voting should be 100% online. Keep voting places, people can do it online at home or go to a polling place. Here's how it works, every single LEGAL American citizen has a valid SS #. It is not the same as having a photo ID. Every SINGLE LEGAL CITIZEN has a SS #. The only reason you would not have a SS # is if you were an illegal alien. SS Administration has name and SS# of every single American, voting should be 1 name/SS#, 1 vote. That's it. Problem solved. How is anyone going to say this disenfranchises any LEGAL American citizen?
This is age-ist. A lot of us old fogies can't work one of them dulgurned computers.

And we ain't about to learn, no sirree. And we sure as heck don't want no young know-it-all leaning over us and telling us how to vote. Why, half of them have metal stuck through their eyelids, anyway.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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that's why I said you would keep the polling places. Instead of punching a card, you go and enter your SS# and a list comes up and you vote online. Instantaneous. We trust the government to keep our banking and job information safe when we file and pay taxes, voting should be no different.
Oh, heck yeah. In fact, why don't we just walk around with our SS number tattooed to our forehead (whew -- almost said foreskin!), thus speeding up our benevolent government's work to keep us safe, warm, and dry.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Is Oregon better than Bayonne?
That's a hanging curveball. Right out over the fat part of the plate.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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They were mugged and had their ID stolen
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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Exactly.

It's part of right wing hardwiring.

They are mentally incapable of putting themselves in the shoes of another person not like themselves.

This thread wasn't started to understand why people don't have ID's but to mock them.

This right wing push to increase voter ID requirement is simply a means reduce Democratic votes.




So you encourage people to do better by classifying them as utterly helpless?

One or two less 6 packs or a few less two litre bottles of Pepsi gets you ID.
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Full time RV"er
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I did not have to provide an ID for my mom OR for my dad when they went into the nursing home (different times, different homes, different states).

It IS a nightmare getting some of these people over to the DMV to get their "free" ID. The person who takes them e.g. a working son or daughter, has to take time off work, etc.
WOW! Mom & Dad spend their life raising a child and the child can't try to repay that effort with one nightmare?
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Old 08-12-2012, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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In Oregon everyone one votes by mail, there all you need is a residential address and you can vote. I prefer that method because it allowed me to take my time, read over the issues, and vote correctly. Also, I don't ever recall there being a problem with voter fraud the entire time I lived there.

If everyone needs an ID to vote, then IDs should be free because voting is free and it is illegal to charge people to vote and requiring people to have voter ID is actually forcing people to be charged to vote.

But really, everyone should be voting by mail in by now, that is by far the best system I have ever seen.
We have a lot of mail-in elections here in CO. I find them convenient, yet. . . I personally know several people who voted for their college age kids who were away at college (one only 50 miles or so away) b/c they "knew how she would vote".
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Old 08-12-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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Yep, there is voter fraud.
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