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You are the only one being stupid here if you think an organization named after one of the Supreme Courts most liberal justices and who accepts funding from and is supported by such widely known leftist organizations like the Joyce Foundation and 2 George Soros funded foundations like Open Society and Democracy Alliance is not an ultra left organization
Knowing full well that you consider even moderates to be "ultra-left wing," I can only be bemused by your skewed consistency. But this is perhaps understandable in a period during which such traditionally moderate and right of center issues as voting rights, redistricting reform, campaign finance reform, and opposition to an imperial presidency have been abandoned in the Republican compulsion to drive through coercion that which they cannot gain at the ballot box.
So the distortion of your position is caused as much by the political lenses through which you look as by any native reactionary personality on your part.
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Originally Posted by Mr.Pancake
Unlike you, I have no need to twist words or create facts to prove my point.
Oh please, you can't afford a copy of your birth certificate? I'm not buying that.
Never underestimate the inability to Chicagonut to tell the difference between a hypothetical example and a personal testimony. A crippling literalism is among the most persistent deficits of the modern American right.
yep, which means you COULD NOT check a book out of the library, rent a car, travel by plane, buy tobacco or liqueur, enter a school grounds, use a credit card,open a bank account, cash a check, enter a casino, etc
That's odd, I check books out of the library all the time and I haven't had to show my ID since I originally got my library cars. Machines don't ask for ID.
Maybe they don't have the sense to get a job, so really don't need an ID that much? Some of them are not able to work. Where would you like this 65 year old black women in a wheel chair to work?
Perhaps you want the voter roll cut off for people that don't have the sense to work?
For myself, I'd like to create an objective civics/government test that I could pass easily and 90% of GOP voters and 60% of Dem voters would fail.
That way only the smart, informed people could vote?
I was under the impression that it was illegal to not have an ID if you are over the age of 18. Otherwise, you could be charged with vagrancy. And I really cannot understand how a 65-year old woman got the medical attention she needed to get in that wheelchair without a valid ID. She's probably on Medicare or Medicaid, which also requires she show valid ID.
In this day and age, no one can convince me that requiring photo ID to vote is disenfranchisement when ID is required for everything from opening a bank account, applying for a job, getting medical attention, obtaining Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security benefits, welfare benefits, cashing a check, going to the courthouse, buying certain allergy medicines, etc. Heck, Attorney General Eric Holder requires people to have valid photo ID to see him give his many speeches claiming the voter ID law is the biggest voter disenfranchisement since the Civil Rights Law passed in the '60s. Same thing at the NAACP convention in Houston recently. Aren't these people talking to the very people they claim would be disenfranchised by this bill?
The REPUBLICANS are simply doing everything the can to reduce the number of potential DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. I guess they no longer trust the Supreme Court to throw the election their way. Why should we expect anything else from a party made up of business people that will lie cheat and steal to make a profit?
I can't afford a copy of my birth certificate, which I need in order to get ID. What does the State of Texas say to me? Now do you see what the problem with all of this is?
Tell you what Buddy, if you really and truly can not afford the $18 the birth certificate and the $18 ID fee private message me.
Here's how to apply for a birth certificate off-line
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Offline instructions for ordering a birth certificate
Obtain and fill out an application for a certified copy of a birth certificate. You can either download one or pick one up in person. See the table below for details.
For births that occurred within the past 75 years, copies can be requested only by the immediate family of the person whose name is on the birth certificate. If you are not an immediate family member, you must provide legal documentation, such as a court order establishing guardianship, that documents a direct and tangible interest in the birth certificate.
Send in the completed application with payment using one of the methods listed in the table below. If the birth occurred within the past 75 years, you must include a photocopy of your valid photo ID issued by a governmental entity. The following are acceptable forms of ID:
State-issued driver's license
State/city/county ID card
Student IDhttps://pics3.city-data.com/forum/
Government employment badge or cardhttps://pics3.city-data.com/forum/
Prison IDhttps://pics3.city-data.com/forum/
Military ID
If you do not have a photo ID, you can instead send a copy of the photo ID of an immediate family member, or you can send copies of two documents showing your name, such as a utility bill and your Social Security card. One of the documents must have your signature.
I am also willing to help you find someone in your community to physically get you to those places too - just PM me.
Knowing full well that you consider even moderates to be "ultra-left wing," I can only be bemused by your skewed consistency. But this is perhaps understandable in a period during which such traditionally moderate and right of center issues as voting rights, redistricting reform, campaign finance reform, and opposition to an imperial presidency have been abandoned in the Republican compulsion to drive through coercion that which they cannot gain at the ballot box.
So the distortion of your position is caused as much by the political lenses through which you look as by any native reactionary personality on your part.
Let no irony go unsmelted.
Certainly you can post proof I believe moderates are "ultra left wing". Lets see it.
George Soros is far from a moderate.
The other organizations that fund and support the Brennan center are far from moderate. Brennan himself was far from a moderate.
The problem with people like you is that you foolishly believe you possess a higher intellect than the masses, yet you and your ilk have a tendency to do nothing but embarrass yourselves in the public arena.
Your little belief system and opinions probably serve you well in areas where reality doesn't exist, such as college campuses and your local union halls, but in places where unicorns don't exist, places like reality, people like you thankfully are a dying breed.
The only downside to that is that it's taking way too long for the dying out to be completed, so unfortunately, we the people, are stuck with the cancer that is you and people like you.
Here's how to apply for a birth certificate off-line
I am also willing to help you find someone in your community to physically get you to those places too - just PM me.
Thanks, but my ID isn't expired yet and I think I'll be able to cover the cost by the time it expires. (My income is slowly rising not falling.) Some people have problems because they're stuck over time with low or no stagnent or declining income.
Maybe they don't have the sense to get a job, so really don't need an ID that much? Some of them are not able to work. Where would you like this 65 year old black women in a wheel chair to work?
How did the 65 year old woman get the medical care that put her in the wheelchair without ID? At 65, she's on Medicare.
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