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Since it doesnt say that, I guess you just spent pages along with Historian, telling me how this was relevant and important, and now admitting that it means nothing.
correct in the sense that neither a spouse's or parent's citizenship affects a person's NBC status.
but i still contend, from my original post, that a branch of the birthers insist that obama is ineligible due to the fact that he had dual-citizenship. now that bachmann maintains dual-citizenship she is absolutely relevant in that debate.
More than hundred have been thrown out of court, but at least a dozen have not. They were decided on their merits after the Birthers got to present their entire cases. All of them have declared Obama a natural born citizen and eligible for the Presidency. I'm happy to provide the case citations if you want them.
I dont give a rats ass about them, you are the one that seems so preocuppied with them and want to turn everything into a birther issue.
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What the hell are you talking about? Please... try to keep track of your own arguments. You are confusing completely different things.
I said you were being stupid for insisting against all common knowledge that this has "nothing to do with Birthism." Your repeated Birther arguments alone prove the assertion to be false.
Wrong, You better seek some medication for that short term memory loss of yours because I said this
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This has nothing to do with the birther movement,
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Don't be stupid. It has everything to do with the Birther movement.
And then you go on to sight court cases showing that Obama is qualified despite once holding dual citizen stats, so what exactly, does this change? Does Obama get special treatment and Bachmann doesnt?
YOU are the one who turned this into a birther issue, despite the fact that numerous presidents had dual citizen status, and her obtaining one doesnt change where she was born. Remember this posting?
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Ignoring that there is a rather significant difference between automatic dual citizenship (a la Obama) and the deliberate pursuit of dual citizenship (a la Bachmann) this is one where the left is mostly going to take a step back and chuckle at the inevitable hypocrisy of the Birthers that will be coming down in 3... 2... 1...
YOU turned it into a birther movement and it again, has absolutely positively not a dam thing to do with it.
Whats this hangup you have with the birther movement that you want to turn everything into one, and then provide evidence that you are wrong. Thats a really odd way of having an adult conversation and I suggest a therapist might help you deal with that anxiety.
Those judges also have erred due to political correctness.
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges."
nothing, thats historians way of calling you stupid, just like he does with so many others here.
No it's not. It's my way of calling him Darryl.
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I find it terribly odd that those who are so against the birther movement, are the very ones who now claim this somehow means something because it doesnt.
Your confusion is deeper than it appeared at first glance. We have always insisted dual citizenship means nothing. We still do.
We are merely enjoying the quandary this puts you Birthers in.
Actually, you are the one who introduced the Birther issue in to this thread when you whined that "Obama himself held dual citizenshps until he was 18, and the left defended that to no end, now all of a sudden they have issue with it."
That was a direct reference to the Birther issue... and as we saw, the Birthers even created a three brand new sock puppets just to Birf in this thread.
So, as I said... don't be stupid.
Saying Obama had dual citizenship status is a FACT, and that doesnt turn it into a birther issue because OTHER PRESIDENT ALSO held dual citizenship status. Looks like you are the oine being stupid
Why? Aren't you happy in the greatest country in the history of the world?
I'm always happy. And there is nothing about my present location that makes me unhappy...that's for sure. Doesn't get much better than Arizona....or America for the most part.
Still though, it's Switzerland. There or here? Pffffft....that's a no brainer.
Greatest country in the history of the world? Meh...i don't know about that. I don't buy it. It's a great country, but i won't get carried away.
If you didn't want the label you shouldn't have joined the cause.
I didnt join the cause, and you claiming I have, doenst make it so, just like you claiming this is important, doesnt make it so. Why arent you embarassed to be so wrong all the time?
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Because the claim that dual citizens cannot be natural born citizens is one of the 5 primary arguments of the Birther movement.
I dont give a rats ass what their arguments are, and since everyone of them have gone down in flames, I find you now pretending they hold relevance utterly embarassing for you.
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Since so many Birthers also adored Michelle Bachmann, this causes a bit of a problem for them.
Of course, you already knew this. But you were just being stupid.
Why, does this change Bachmanns location of birth? YOU SAID the birthermovement revolves around where someone was born.
Enjoy your toss, I warned you.
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