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Old 05-09-2012, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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He did? To what countries?
The UK until 1963. Kenya until age 18.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:32 AM
 
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Politico has got this wrong. Since 1992, marrying a Swiss husband no longer entitles a woman to automatic Swiss citizenship.


Ignoring that this is just a hypothetical (she is not a Swiss citizen), the question is really pretty goofy. Tens of millions of Americans are automatic dual citizens, most of whom do not even know it. How could the technicality of dual citizenship suddenly compel an otherwise loyal American to become a spy?
Whatever it takes to get the focus off Obama and his horrible term as our president.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:59 AM
 
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Since she is my congresswoman I think I have more right to say this than anyone. Please go to Switzerland Bachmann. Thanks.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: NC
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someone might of said this already, but it's another example of the rats leaving the sinking ship...
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Florida
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But, under British law, he is technically a British citizen.
Being eligible and being citizen are not the same things.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:07 AM
 
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Being eligible and being citizen are not the same things.
They are when you don't actually have to apply for citizenship.

We had that situation with a young woman who worked for us. We wanted to send her on secondment to London. When she sent in the work permit documentation the British authorities informed her that she did not need a work permit as she was British (American parents but born in London before 1982). She had no idea. All she needed to do was fill in her passport application.

The point is that you can be a natural born citizen of the USA and be a citizen of another country whether you know it or not.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Florida
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They are when you don't actually have to apply for citizenship.

We had that situation with a young woman who worked for us. We wanted to send her on secondment to London. When she sent in the work permit documentation the British authorities informed her that she did not need a work permit as she was British (American parents but born in London before 1982). She had no idea. All she needed to do was fill in her passport application.

The pint is that you can be a natural born citizen of the USA and be a citizen of another country whether you know it or not.
If she was born on British soil, then she would have been registered as a citizen by the hospital. That is a different story. If you are born in US to British parents, they Brits cannot claim you are British citizen and demand you to perform duties of citizen, or subject you to their laws. However, if you want to benefit from their system, you can apply to become citizen. It is not automatic.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:43 AM
 
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If she was born on British soil, then she would have been registered as a citizen by the hospital. That is a different story. If you are born in US to British parents, they Brits cannot claim you are British citizen and demand you to perform duties of citizen, or subject you to their laws. However, if you want to benefit from their system, you can apply to become citizen. It is not automatic.
You are automatically a British citizen in this situation. But, British laws are only enforceable in a British jurisdiction.

There is no concept in British law of 'registering' as a citizen unless your claim is outside the normal 'automatic' means.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:48 AM
 
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curious to hear the "dual-allegiance" branch of the birthers chime in. i saw that "steve" made a brief guest appearance before he ( and his posts ) were shown the door.

one thing i've always pointed out to the "dual-allegiance" birthers in the "natural born citizen" debate is that you can obtain a second ( third, fourth.....) citizenship long after birth ( as is the case with bachmann and thomas jefferson ). obviously nothing you do later in life changes the circumstances surrounding how/where you were born. another possibility is that a foreign country may change their citizenship laws within a person's lifetime making someone a dual citizen that wasn't so at birth.
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Old 05-09-2012, 10:56 AM
 
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curious to hear the "dual-allegiance" branch of the birthers chime in. i saw that "steve" made a brief guest appearance before he ( and his posts ) were shown the door.

one thing i've always pointed out to the "dual-allegiance" birthers in the "natural born citizen" debate is that you can obtain a second ( third, fourth.....) citizenship long after birth ( as is the case with bachmann and thomas jefferson ). obviously nothing you do later in life changes the circumstances surrounding how/where you were born. another possibility is that a foreign country may change their citizenship laws within a person's lifetime making someone a dual citizen that wasn't so at birth.
Yes, good points

It is not the application of US law that matters here but, rather, the application of other country's laws.
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