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I'm not in forensics, but i'm pretty positive that a muzzle directly against skin doesn't produce blood spatter from the point of contact. This is speculation of course....but if in fact Zimmerman was on the bottom being beaten up, he very possibly could have pulled his gun from the holster and put it right up Trayvon and pulled the trigger.
I'm sure we'll know eventually what transpired that night.
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How Bloodstain Pattern Analysis Works
If a gunshot occured at close range, the victim might have stippling, or burns on his skin from gunpowder. Shots fired at very close range can also cause internal muzzle staining. When this happens, the victim's blood is sucked back into the gun's muzzle by the cooling of the explosive gases that are released when a short is fired. Testing the gun's muzzle for blood can provide an additional clue to solve a case.
HA! It's called direct rebuttal evidence! Also you now have police you reported they didn't see blood or bruising on Zimmerman either and questioned his version of events.
That means it would be relative to the defense and/or prosecutor should there be a trial. It is not relevant to the ongoing investigation. Why would it? They saw the guy in person....in flesh 'n blood. Who needs the video to determine what they could see up close and in person?
There's absolutely nothing to suggest that Zimmerman initially confronted Martin with a gun. All signs point to a physical altercation that resulted in the gun being pulled after the physical altercation began.
he confronted him...he had a gun...someone died... those are facts...
Well, wait a sec!! It certainly put in suspicious Question what Zimmerman's lawyer and pal, Joe Oliver have been feeding the public, the last week??
So, yeah, it has a bearing. I'd say....A big bearing!!
Uh, no. This is a police station video. There's nothing in that video that the police don't already know. You folks act like this is previously unknown footage that is damning to Zimmerman. Why would it be damning? They saw the guy in person! So what could the police possibly get from this video that they didn't see in person? LOL
HA! It's called direct rebuttal evidence! Also you now have police you reported they didn't see blood or bruising on Zimmerman either and questioned his version of events.
I think you're confused. The police work for the state which has to prove that Zimmerman committed a crime there's nothing to rebut. How does this tape which they've had for a month, convict Zimmerman now and it didn't before?
782.04 Murder.-- (1)(a) The unlawful killing of a human being:
2. When committed by a person engaged in the perpetration of, or in the attempt to perpetrate, any:
n. Aggravated stalking,
o. Murder of another human being,
vs.
782.07 Manslaughter; aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult; aggravated manslaughter of a child; aggravated manslaughter of an officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical technician, or a paramedic.-
(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) A person who causes the death of any person under the age of 18 by culpable negligence under s. 827.03(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of a child, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
The following should be under the heading..."Things You Never Thought You Would Google"
How Bloodstain Pattern Analysis Works
If a gunshot occured at close range, the victim might have stippling, or burns on his skin from gunpowder. Shots fired at very close range can also cause internal muzzle staining. When this happens, the victim's blood is sucked back into the gun's muzzle by the cooling of the explosive gases that are released when a short is fired. Testing the gun's muzzle for blood can provide an additional clue to solve a case.
The following should be under the heading..."Things You Never Thought You Would Google"
How Bloodstain Pattern Analysis Works
If a gunshot occured at close range, the victim might have stippling, or burns on his skin from gunpowder. Shots fired at very close range can also cause internal muzzle staining. When this happens, the victim's blood is sucked back into the gun's muzzle by the cooling of the explosive gases that are released when a short is fired. Testing the gun's muzzle for blood can provide an additional clue to solve a case.
Good info. Perhaps the police have swabbed Zimmerman's gun. Spatter doesn't seem to be an issue though. At least not in the context of those wondering why Z is not covered in TM's blood.
There's absolutely nothing to suggest that Zimmerman initially confronted Martin with a gun. All signs point to a physical altercation that resulted in the gun being pulled after the physical altercation began.
He had the gun on him.
It was Zimmerman's gun, he admitted to shooting him. Wow.
It was Zimmerman's gun, he admitted to shooting him. Wow.
So what exactly about my statement are you contesting? The poster asserted that TM was confronted with a gun, not a verbal assault. I corrected the poster based on my understanding of events. The gun does not appear to have been a factor until after the physical altercation. The assertion was that it was before the altercation. I don't belive that to be the case.
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