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If the union and the company agreed to such an arrangement, why is that anybody else's business? In a free market, labor and management are free to enter into any agreement that they want. I do not have a problem with PRIVATE unions. Public unions however should be restricted from political activity of any kind.
It's hardly a free market when the unionized workers have the brute force of the federal government to enforce their demands.
They to are union members and it is in there contract.
Are you jealous that they get bonuses?
Why be outraged?
Jealousy?
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Originally Posted by VTHokieFan
To be clear, I'm not talking about union members getting bonuses, I am talking about the employees of unions getting bonuses. Where is the outrage there?
Unions started in the United States to keep blacks and Asians out of the workforce.
They have been tied to the Mafia since the beginning.
40 hour work week was started in non-union shops. (Endicott-Johnson and Ford in the 1890s and early 1900s)
Health insurance for employees was started in non-union shops. Endicott-Johnson and defense contractors. 1890s and WW2)
Wages were rising in non-union manufacturing shops at much higher rates from 1860-1914 than after the unions started gaining power in the 30s. (50% from 1860-1890 and another 34% 1890-1914, adjusted for inflation).
Child labor in manufacturing was virtually eradicated by capitalists by 1920. But unions claim credit for getting rid of it by getting laws passed in 1937.
Unions are nothing more than racist mafia types that will lie, scam and cheat about anything to get money and power.
That's why they get bonuses.
Oh, so paying the workers in company scrip, redeemable only at the company store or to pay the rent on the company-owned shack, didn't have anything to do with it?
Because they're in the private sector and if they do a good job, they get bonuses. They are for profit entities and anyone of us is free to march away from these banks like I did, and go to a credit union.
My issue is that these employees are forced into these unions against their will, they pay dues and then the union employees get bonuses. I find it bizarre that non-profit, political entities, like unions get bonuses
Are Union bonuses tied to how many small businesses you can close down or something?
Why do you care what a union pays it's employees? If you're not a member of that union, then i don't see why it's any business of yours. Since you're so quick to defend corporate bonuses regardless of competency, i don't see why you should decide to raise your ethical standards now.
You're just whining because someone is getting a better deal than you. Go find a job that offers a bonus, and maybe you won't be so bitter.
To be clear, I'm not talking about union members getting bonuses, I am talking about the employees of unions getting bonuses. Where is the outrage there?
First thing you need to do is prove that unions even have enough paid employees for anyone to get their panties in a bunch over. A regional office covering thousands of workers might have 1-3 paid clerical workers and the top international/national negotiators and their clerical staff are paid, but all these people have worked their way up through the ranks of unpaid elected positions in local and regional union representation.
The second thing you need to prove is that the few paid employees that unions do have are getting unreasonable bonuses---or any bonuses all for that matter. I've never seen an documentation proving they do. I do know that Christmas bonuses at a regional official in my area, and their clerical worker, comes from volunteer collections from the membership.
It's hardly a free market when the unionized workers have the brute force of the federal government to enforce their demands.
Excuse me. But when federal workers unions negotiate their contracts, etc., they are negotiating against representatives of the federal government. They do NOT work in tantrum. Federal workers unions don't have the federal government "to enforce their demands!"
Oh, so paying the workers in company scrip, redeemable only at the company store or to pay the rent on the company-owned shack, didn't have anything to do with it?
In some cases.
The vast majority of unions started top keep blacks and Asians form "taking" jobs from white people.
Look at immigration statistics from the late 1800s and early 1900s. Millions and millions of workers were leaving Europe to come to the U.S.
Europe was heavily unionized, the U.S. was less than 3% unionized. Europe had all kind of workplace laws, the U.S. didn't. But the workers were moving to the non-union U.S. If unions were so great these people would have never left.
This has always been true. Look where jobs are being created now. It aint in union states. The only expception is people from the South moving to Detroit in the 40s and 50s. Other than that workers always migrate to non-union areas.
That's all anyone needs to know about unions to see they are a joke.
Excuse me. But when federal workers unions negotiate their contracts, etc., they are negotiating against representatives of the federal government. They do NOT work in tantrum. Federal workers unions don't have the federal government "to enforce their demands!"
He was obviously talking about private sector unions.
Excuse me. But when federal workers unions negotiate their contracts, etc., they are negotiating against representatives of the federal government. They do NOT work in tantrum. Federal workers unions don't have the federal government "to enforce their demands!"
I was speaking of private sector unions, but you knew that.
When unionized public sector workers negotiate, its against all of us taxpayers who aren't in the employ of the biggest bully on the block...the federal government.
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