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Old 11-19-2011, 10:07 PM
 
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Did the OP actually argue that students cannot be expelled for bad behavior?

Why the hell not?

Throw the bums out.

do they get a refund for the thousdands of dollars they've spent on their education?

they aren't 'bum's they're regular human beings and this isn't high school. they've paid a lot of money to be there.
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:09 PM
 
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Did the Duke Lacrosse kids get kicked off campus before anything went to trial?

Just asking.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:16 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Did the Duke Lacrosse kids get kicked off campus before anything went to trial?

Just asking.

If I recall correctly they were suspended from school so, yes.

The difference may also be that the Howard incident happened on-campus in campus housing.


When I was in college in the early 1970's an incident like fighting in the dorm would get you kicked out of the building but not necessarily off campus. The Howard incident sounds like it escalated way beyond a typical slapping, hair pulling fight if one did throw the scalding water on the other.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:39 AM
 
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Kick em out of student housing. Actually her credits will transfer. The school should pay her back for her current tuition though and classes she's enrolled in if they want to boot her out of the entire university. Seems a bit extreme to me for a fight. Let law enforcement deal with it. It didn't happen in class or disrupt classes or anything. I guess fights at football games will be getting folks kicked out next?? Plenty of football players at KU back in the day used to get in brawls all the time at their on campus housing and never got kicked out of the university. Hell there were always fights at frat parties and the like. 18-20 yo's with belly's full of beer make bad mixes at times. This case seems strange.
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Old 11-20-2011, 04:58 AM
 
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Kick em out of student housing. Actually her credits will transfer. The school should pay her back for her current tuition though and classes she's enrolled in if they want to boot her out of the entire university. Seems a bit extreme to me for a fight. Let law enforcement deal with it. It didn't happen in class or disrupt classes or anything. I guess fights at football games will be getting folks kicked out next?? Plenty of football players at KU back in the day used to get in brawls all the time at their on campus housing and never got kicked out of the university. Hell there were always fights at frat parties and the like. 18-20 yo's with belly's full of beer make bad mixes at times. This case seems strange.

agreed. college isn't like high school. they've paid thousands of dollars for a service, if the university doesn't want to provide that service than they need to offer a refund.

like if someone paid for a stereo, either they get the stereo or they get a refund at least
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:04 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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agreed. college isn't like high school. they've paid thousands of dollars for a service, if the university doesn't want to provide that service than they need to offer a refund.

like if someone paid for a stereo, either they get the stereo or they get a refund at least


The university is not providing the service due to an action/behavior of the student so why should there be a refund?

You buy a new stereo and drop it down your stairs when you're taking it into the house and you expect a refund?

If some of you have gone to college, and sometimes I doubt it from some of the crap that's posted (or if you did you truly did waste your money) you should know that refunds are rare and happen only if a very limited set of circumstances occur, usually within the first couple weeks of classes. Expecting a refund due to your own illegal actions/violation of dorm and college rules is unrealistic. Or another example of the entitlement mentality of Gen Y.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:14 AM
 
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The university is not providing the service due to an action/behavior of the student so why should there be a refund?

You buy a new stereo and drop it down your stairs when you're taking it into the house and you expect a refund?

If some of you have gone to college, and sometimes I doubt it from some of the crap that's posted (or if you did you truly did waste your money) you should know that refunds are rare and happen only if a very limited set of circumstances occur, usually within the first couple weeks of classes. Expecting a refund due to your own illegal actions/violation of dorm and college rules is unrealistic. Or another example of the entitlement mentality of Gen Y.

i have two bachelors degrees. and being kicked out of the dorm is different than being kicked out your extremely expensive classes. and if you drop a stero when taking it into your house you sure as heck do get a refund, either through the store or the manufacturer.

if i were them i'd sue, or simply not pay it.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Did the Duke Lacrosse kids get kicked off campus before anything went to trial?

Just asking.
Yup, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson made sure of it.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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i have two bachelors degrees. and being kicked out of the dorm is different than being kicked out your extremely expensive classes. and if you drop a stero when taking it into your house you sure as heck do get a refund, either through the store or the manufacturer.

if i were them i'd sue, or simply not pay it.
And you would lose.
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Old 11-20-2011, 05:31 AM
 
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And you would lose.

How would you lose? if i'm paying thousands of dollars for something then i would expect to get what i paid for. that's called stealing and or breach of contract.

If i get kicked out of my apartment for fighting with a roommate does that mean that i have to give my landlord my car?

makes no sense
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