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Old 09-27-2011, 09:15 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The rich's job creation efforts cannot get ahead of the Obama administration's job destruction efforts.
Wow, Obama's been president for ten years?
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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When the poor spend all the money they have, jobs are created supplying the stuff they buy. Providing the poor with money, using welfare or employment, creates far more economic activity, aka more jobs, than allowing the money to be sequestered by the rich and gambled away in financial scandals.
My god, they walk amongst us.. How frightening is that..? When you made dumb statements like that, the sane people feel bad for you. Best to keep quiet so no one knows the truth about you..
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:20 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Good point. Plus, many truck drivers are independent (they own their rig).

Curious about another point a person made about keeping the 'illegals' out so that prices for agricultural work will increase: at what wage would Americans be willing to stand out in a hot field all day collecting crops?
They would for a livable wage. Americans have done it before, you know.

Besides, only a small percentage of the illegals work in the fields these days. They are taking jobs like construction and manufacturing.

For agricultural work, the US issues an almost unlimited number of migrant visas. There is no reason for those illegals working 'in the fields' to be illegal.
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:21 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Perfect example as to how the left doesnt have a clue.

Gates and Buffet together hire about 350,000 individuals. According to you, they are poor because employees are a cost
How many does the typical Wall st pimp hire? How many that work for Walmart are on welfare? All millionaires/billionaires do not have people working for them, and some of the ones that do have found ways of making more money by laying off people and doing more with less
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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with out the owner you wont have the production
That's not true. There are countless co-ops and "worker owned corporations" to suggest that different paradigms can and do work.

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the owners can be producer...but ..the producers dont have the means to be owners
Again, not true. A lot of time it boils down to access to capital. And who controls access to capital?
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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So you want jobs??? Here's the plan.
1.) Secure our borders so that illegals stop lowering the wages in agriculture, construction, and manufacturing.
2.) Eliminate unions. Period. Companies can't afford to pay the guy that sweeps the floor at the GM plant $35 an hour, or give him $40K per year retirement for the rest of his life after his 50th birthday. And you wonder why companies would rather open up shop in India, China, or Mexico?
3.) Quit the "Green Jobs" crap. We have enough oil, and enough people to drill for it right here in the USA.
4.) Eliminate needless government regulation.
5.) Eliminate the Department of Education, (states can handle this), the Department of Labor, (the laws of the land protect our workers), and the "czars" that are overseeing nearly every industry in America.
6.) Reform all forms of wellfare.
-All that is just a start, but will quickly produce an increase in employment in our country.

You know those who constantly partake in powdery white substances mixed with baking powder may cause a temporary and in some case permenant loss of sanity
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:27 AM
 
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My god, they walk amongst us.. How frightening is that..? When you made dumb statements like that, the sane people feel bad for you. Best to keep quiet so no one knows the truth about you..
Yeah, you're a regular voice of sanity and reason!

He is absolutely right.

CONSUMPTION is the BASE of the American economy. Supply side vs. Demand side.

There's only so much economic activity that can be generated through the purchase of luxury goods and services. The largest corps make their money selling directly to the poor and middle class (Wal-Mart, GAP, Ford, etc.)
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:29 AM
 
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How many does the typical Wall st pimp hire? How many that work for Walmart are on welfare? All millionaires/billionaires do not have people working for them, and some of the ones that do have found ways of making more money by laying off people and doing more with less
And NO people on welfare have people working for them.

So what's your point?
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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That's not true. There are countless co-ops and "worker owned corporations" to suggest that different paradigms can and do work.



Again, not true. A lot of time it boils down to access to capital. And who controls access to capital?
I control my capital.

And trust me, not that long ago it was less than $5.
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Do Libs have ANY clue as to how capitalism works? They want to cut taxes because those companies keep their money out of the US, so it doesn't get stolen, er, taxed. With the highest corporate tax rate in the world, it's no wonder they stay away.

The GOP is trying to get more money back to the US. When will you Libs get that?
uh, so what do you suppose we do this time? They have had tax breaks for the rich for the last 10 years and more jobs are being sent overseas and more unemployment is on the rise. This country is heading over a cliff and you want to keep driving like you are Mr Magoo
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