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Old 09-04-2011, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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You're right. You can't demand complete freedom but then demand the government take care of you.
At least we finally agree on something.
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Old 09-04-2011, 11:12 PM
 
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You're right. You can't demand complete freedom but then demand the government take care of you.
This! This was my entire point! Unless you people have this sense of entitlement that government should in fact take care of you when you make mistakes like this one.
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Old 09-04-2011, 11:33 PM
 
Location: NC
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I've been saying this for years.

Without having read any other posts, I bet there are many who say that "sex is a right!".

I don't disagree.

But with rights come responsibilities.

Most on the left do not see that fact or stay willfully ignorant.

For society to work, all must take responsibility for their own actions.
First I am not certain that sex is a right. Second, I think that position involves cutting off your nose to spite your face, because if a woman is too poor to afford an abortion, how do you think she is supposed to pay for a child? That kid will become a ward of the state faster then you can say welfare whether you like it, or not. The fact of the matter is the government is going to pay one way or another.

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Old 09-05-2011, 02:02 AM
 
Location: California
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You're right. You can't demand complete freedom but then demand the government take care of you.
Actually, you can. You may not agree with it but you can certainly demand it. Some kind of national health would treat everything, including things you do to yourself with your "freedom". That includes big macs, stupidity and high risk hobbies as well as drugs btw.
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Old 09-05-2011, 02:07 AM
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The only people I know who don't know how to stay out of bedrooms are Republicans. They want to be able to tell people what gender they are allowed to marry.
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Old 09-05-2011, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Then exactly what does Planned Parenthood do? Please, share. Enlighten me.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/fil...P_Services.pdf

And they just got a $50 donation in your screen name.
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Old 09-05-2011, 04:36 AM
 
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I am not that bad at critical reading, but apparently you are.

Basically in the case at hand Planned Parenthood sued Kansas (the article left out the reasoning why for some unknown reason) and Planned Parenthood requested, and were granted, a temporary injunction to prevent harm to their organization while the case made its way through court.

Planned Parenthood is an Abortion provider, but there is nothing to suggest that the funds that they were denied were in any way tied to abortion services. In fact since they were federal funds it is almost certain that they were not because of the Hyde Amendment. This article preys on those with weak logical reason skills hoping they will make the unfounded assumption that since planned parenthood provides abortion that must be what the money was for, when in fact Planned Parenthood performs a wide array of services and by law federal money cannot be directly allocated to abortion services.
When I donate to PP, I specifically donate for abortion services as they are not federally funded.

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Finally! Someone who admits that planned parenthood is in fact an abortion provider!

And how do you know that? Do you have any records proving they weren't using the funds for abortion?
Less than 3% of services provided are for abortions.

This has been discussed ad naseum in the dozen other threads on this topic.
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Old 09-05-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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http://www.plannedparenthood.org/fil...P_Services.pdf

And they just got a $50 donation in your screen name.
What!? I didn't donate!
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Old 09-06-2011, 05:53 AM
 
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What!? I didn't donate!
I donated in your screen name.
I do that when someone starts an ill-informed or false topic on PP.
It used to be $100 but I don't donate over $1k to any org during the year.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:51 AM
 
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Less than 3% of services provided are for abortions.

This has been discussed ad naseum in the dozen other threads on this topic.

Um...this!

And I have used PP in the past. Not for an abortion but I bought BCP there (birth control pills) and got regular gynecological exams that since I was uninsured, I would not have been able to afford any other way.

Wanted to add for the young OP, would you rather pay $300 for an abortion or hundreds of thousands of dollars for WIC, foodstamps, mediciad, daycare assistance, and others for that single child?
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