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Old 07-16-2011, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Now, THIS is priceless.

Amazing how history repeats itself with liberals in the White House.

Obama Remix Carter Speech | Carter Speech Remix | Video | Mediaite

Not quite the upbeat HopeNChange from 2008, is it?
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Old 07-16-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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Oh, c'mon, you just be hatin' on our brother cause he's a black man tryin' to hep the brothers. Racist!

I doubt too many of our lefty posters will defend barry here but I'm sure we'll be able to count on a few.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Oh, c'mon, you just be hatin' on our brother cause he's a black man tryin' to hep the brothers. Racist!

I doubt too many of our lefty posters will defend barry here but I'm sure we'll be able to count on a few.
It really is amazing they recycle the same old tired cliches and excuses for their ruinous policies.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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Not quite the upbeat HopeNChange from 2008, is it?
The country is better off now than it was in the fall of 2008. Technically, I believe the unemployment was lower then, but that was only because the sell off on Wall St. had just started a few months before and there was a lag between the time companies first felt the effects and the time they actually reacted to them (went out of business or cut jobs). It's still not a pretty situation, but he's at least stabilized the economy and started the process of bringing us out of two very long and costly wars.

I'll just put out there what you've already suspected: yes, I'm an Obama voter, and yes I plan to vote for him again. But I have voted for Republicans in the past, and I haven't entirely ruled it out in the future either. I would at least be willing to see what a business-minded, intelligent, articulate, rational, moderate, and pragmatic GOP candidate with experience like Mitt Romney has to say and what he proposes doing about the current situation. I won't lie; I'd still be leaning toward another four years of Barry O, but as I said, I could at least give Mitt a chance and hear him out.

I cannot say the same for overwhelming majority of free market fanatics who populate the GOP of today. I'm not going to say that Democrats are entirely blameless, but what I see from Republicans just disgusts me. This whole uncompromising, mission-from-God mentality....to defend tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans, who need absolutely no help at all. It's not just bad politics; it is an outrage, and it is immoral, and if there's a judgmental God I suspect that God is preparing their train to hell as we speak.

It's bad enough that Republicans don't have their priorities in the right place, but that's not the worst of it. The absolute most unforgivable aspect to the Republicans' political strategy is their incessant tendency to disrupt the public debate on the issue, by virtue of scaremongering and dishonest demagoguery. And oh my what a surprise, it turns out that the biggest bank roller and international media advocate for conservative politics is implicated in charges of one of the greatest media scandals of all time.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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Ah, they never fail to deliver.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:16 AM
 
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It really is amazing they recycle the same old tired cliches and excuses for their ruinous policies.
The democrat party is only after one thing: to maintain and expand the status quo which ensures that "revenue" continues to flow into government at an ever increasing rate. They(democrats) are only interested in feathering their own beds on the backs of the taxpayers. Do not be fooled by the crocodile tears they shed over women, minorities, working poor, environment, social justice, the middle class, etc etc. They do not give a tinkers dam about any of that, beyond how those issues can be gamed to ensure more salary and benefits to government "workers".

3 things this country needs:

1. outlaw public unions
2. term limits for congress
3. flat tax for everyone

Now watch the liberals dissect these 3 items to show how they are "unfair" in an attempt to protect their greedy scam.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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Now, THIS is priceless.

Amazing how history repeats itself with liberals in the White House.

Obama Remix Carter Speech | Carter Speech Remix | Video | Mediaite

Not quite the upbeat HopeNChange from 2008, is it?
Yes, clever editing. I could do the same thing with a collection of Bush's speeches and Hitler's, given enough time to do the snip n' paste.

But nevermind the essential dishonesty behind this gimmick. I'm willing to concede your central point. History DOES repeat itself with liberals in the White House. They are constantly cleaning up the messes left behind by their conservative predecessors:

- Lincoln in 1860 (crisis over slavery)

- Teddy in 1900 (our first progressive president, stopped the Robber Barons, put in safety regulations for food and drugs, created Nat Pk system)

- FDR in 1932 (saved us from Great Depression with Socialism-lite initiatives, support for Labor)

- Clinton 1992 (Turned Reagan/Bush I debt into surplus)

- Obama in 2008 (Don't even get me started on the pile of Texas cow dung Obama got handed)

Interesting thing abouit Carter's "malaise" speech- he never used the word "malaise". That is a lable laid on it by conservative commentators, and it stuck.

Carter was a tool in a lot of ways (very poor leadership skills), but he was right with that speech. He was trying to warn us that our wasteful spending and oil gluttony was going to get us into trouble someday.

The speech was very well received at the time. Carter's personal approval ratings shot up for a while. It wasn't Carter's energy initiatives that doomed him. It was 16% inflation, oil embargos, and the Iran hostage crisis, and his own indecisiveness.

America was at a crossroads in 1979. We could have tightened our belts, cut back on waste, and come up with a sensible energy policy.

But instead we decided "Screw all the negativity! Poverty sucks! Let's have a party! Just put it on the card! It's morning in America!!!". And we elected Reagan...

One of the first things Saint Ronnie did was to symbolically remove the solar energy panels from the WH.

If you get a chance, read Carter's "malaise" speech. He really predicted our current problems. We still could benefit as a country by taking his advice. Of course, it would be about 10,000x harder now.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:36 AM
 
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Wow, what an incredible hack job by the people behind Laura Ingraham (because let's face it, she's nothing more than a talking head).

They took Jimmy Carter's 'Malign and Despair' speech that is generally regarded by everyone as a significant point in his loss of the presidency and then cherry picked key phrases out of various speeches by Barack Obama that sound almost like what Carter was saying and then juxtaposed the carefully edited sound bites while ignoring the clashing contexts.

That's what I like about the conservative puppets who post to this forum, they live to spread the "truthiness" as manufactured by their puppet masters every day!
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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Wow, what an incredible hack job by the people behind Laura Ingraham (because let's face it, she's nothing more than a talking head).

They took Jimmy Carter's 'Malign and Despair' speech that is generally regarded by everyone as a significant point in his loss of the presidency and then cherry picked key phrases out of various speeches by Barack Obama that sound almost like what Carter was saying and then juxtaposed the carefully edited sound bites while ignoring the clashing contexts.

That's what I like about the conservative puppets who post to this forum, they live to spread the "truthiness" as manufactured by their puppet masters every day!
They took Jimmy Carter's 'Malign and Despair' speech that is generally regarded by everyone as a significant point in his loss of the presidency

That's not true. That is RW revisionism. Check my post above, or better yet, the historic record, for a more accurate account.
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Old 07-16-2011, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Riverside
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Ah, they never fail to deliver.
And, some folks never fail to deliver short, snarky posts lacking any substance!
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