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Old 06-20-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Common ownership of the means of production. In other words...Socialism. That's the answer
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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We like capitalism because it enables us to live the American Dream.
Just try and telling that to 14 million unemployed folks desperately seeking a job. Capitalism only works for a *few*, not the many. Why in the world should the rights of the *few* supersede the rights of the many?

This whole "capitalism" thing really boils down to Darwinism. I like Darwin and his theories just fine, when it's applied to evolution of the plant and animal kingdom over vast time spans. Darwinism does NOT apply to the human family - as that just leads to the problems we have today, wealth and power concentrated in the hands of the few.

Thankfully, history is littered with examples how this form of "evolution" always ends in failure, the reason being is that it doesn't work. Period.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Just try and telling that to 14 million unemployed folks desperately seeking a job. Capitalism only works for a *few*, not the many. Why in the world should the rights of the *few* supersede the rights of the many?
Hear! Hear!.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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We like capitalism because it enables us to live the American Dream.
The American dream is circling the drain. Wake up! America is turning into a third world country. The rich wouldn't last a day in the streets of Somalia. If the wealth gap keeps increasing that is what America will be 50 years from now. The rich will need a blackwater convoy of private security just to go out to get a mochachino.
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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Assuming that one who owns their home, also owns the land it's on, there is a higher land-owner rate today than there was 70 years ago.



Naturally you're going to expect wealthier to have more than the poor. That's called social hierarchy.

My god you are clueless. Home ownership means nothing. Do these people own their home clear and free? And you're wrong. MANY homeowners do not in fact own the land their house sits on nowadays. Small scale family farms were the backbone of our country and freedom. The ability of families and communities to grow their own food was a cornerstone of independence. That has been hacked away. Now most people are one meal away from starvation if anything were to happen to the national food supply.
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Old 06-20-2011, 08:05 AM
 
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Just try and telling that to 14 million unemployed folks desperately seeking a job. Capitalism only works for a *few*, not the many. Why in the world should the rights of the *few* supersede the rights of the many?

This whole "capitalism" thing really boils down to Darwinism. I like Darwin and his theories just fine, when it's applied to evolution of the plant and animal kingdom over vast time spans. Darwinism does NOT apply to the human family - as that just leads to the problems we have today, wealth and power concentrated in the hands of the few.

Thankfully, history is littered with examples how this form of "evolution" always ends in failure, the reason being is that it doesn't work. Period.
Most of those 14 million are waiting to get awarded a job. Very few of them are out there trying to create jobs. Obviously if they keep waiting for something to become available to them rather than creating something themselves, they are going to fall behind.

How is 14 million people the majority? Majority of people have jobs.
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Old 06-20-2011, 08:11 AM
 
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My god you are clueless. Home ownership means nothing. Do these people own their home clear and free? And you're wrong. MANY homeowners do not in fact own the land their house sits on nowadays. Small scale family farms were the backbone of our country and freedom. The ability of families and communities to grow their own food was a cornerstone of independence. That has been hacked away. Now most people are one meal away from starvation if anything were to happen to the national food supply.
Nearly 40% of them own their homes clear and free. That's not bad.
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Old 06-20-2011, 08:18 AM
 
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Should I go steal, plunder and pillage Ted Turner's land because that's how it was originally acquired?
can you elaborate? I don't recall Ted Turner stealing, plundering, or pillaging.

looks to me like he inherited a company that had billboard advertising, and turned it into CNN by making good investments.
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Old 06-20-2011, 09:48 AM
 
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Errrrrrrr.....wrong again. The amount of people owning land in America is shrinking. Family farms are being gobbled up by huge mega corporations for example. Eminent domain is swallowing entire neighborhoods. Vast tracts of wilderness i.e. millions of acres are increasingly being concentrated into the hands of a few wealthy families and individuals or worse government.
So if you don't like it you are free to go...I prefer it that way....thsoe who have good ideas and work hard cna get ahead...works for me

The situation you describe is similar to 3rd world South American countries...
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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Yes, of course you are right. It simply is not fair. The Ultra Rich have it so hard. Lets just have them give all of their money to the poor and let the poor carry around the burden all of the time. That will show them.

Just another peasant sychophant thread.
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