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I'd sure like to start hearing some "fairness" talk from the right wingers.
That is because the right does not play the victim hood game in order to justify bigger government, like the left does. In order for something to be unfair, there needs to be some victim being exploited. The politicians on the left thrive by creating victims. If someone has one penny more then you do, it's unfair, and big government will along shortly to force fairness on the population. Any time the left want more control, and a bigger, more intrusive government, they claim that "unfairness" is a foot, and only they can save us from it.
The liberals will be speaking the truth when they start living as they preach with their own money!
But they do not as time and time again shows they are not charitable with their own money or their time.
Never saw a checkbox for 'Conservative' or 'Liberal' on my 1040 this year
The liberals will be speaking the truth when they start living as they preach with their own money!
But they do not as time and time again shows they are not charitable with their own money or their time.
No kidding.
0bama and Biden want a 39% tax rate on the top 5% earners, and they want to take away their itemized deductions for home mortgage interest and charitable giving, and yet these two men claimed all the deductions they possible could, and paid 10% below their own 39% tax rate.... and they claimed itemized deductions.
OBAMA: Their basic view is that no matter how successful I am, no matter how much I've taken from this country... I wasn't born wealthy. I was raised by a single mom and my grandparents. I went to college on scholarships. There was a time when my mom was trying to get her Ph.D. where, for a short time, she had to take food stamps. My grandparents relied on Medicare and Social Security. Their notion is: Despite the fact that I've benefited from all these investments, somehow I now have no obligation to people who are less fortunate than me.
The only one who is preventing 0bama and Biden from giving back to the people is themselves. They both chose not to pay a 39% tax rate, and they chose to take every deduction possible to pay as little taxes as possible.
I forgot to mention that 0bama/Biden want the top 10% wage earners to pay Medicare and SS taxes on all income above $100,000, and neither one volunteered to do that either.
No, we didn't. I came from a more wealthy household. My parents paid for tutors on the SATs. My dad taught me grammar. I traveled to Switzerland to learn French. That's not the same opportunities. So I gave my experiences, free of charge, thus spreading some of the opportunities I was given. My dad even corrected my friends papers...since that's what he helped me with. Thus, equalizing the playing field.
I just did break your argument.
Good morning,
What you did was commendable, but it's better compared to voluntary charity. I believe what some folks on this thread are referring to is government imposed fairness.
Using your example, it would be the school forcing students like you to tutor students who are behind instead of it being voluntary.
That is because the right does not play the victim hood game in order to justify bigger government, like the left does.
Then where does all this silly talk about taxes being "punishment" come from?
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In order for something to be unfair, there needs to be some victim being exploited. The politicians on the left thrive by creating victims. If someone has one penny more then you do, it's unfair, and big government will along shortly to force fairness on the population. Any time the left want more control, and a bigger, more intrusive government, they claim that "unfairness" is a foot, and only they can save us from it.
Unfair policies/regulations that favor some interest over the public are blatantly unfair and seriously unbalances equality of opportunity for all who are not members of that particular interest. Granting favors to special interests is a specialty of the GOP and has been for some time now.
What you did was commendable, but it's better compared to voluntary charity. I believe what some folks on this thread are referring to is government imposed fairness.
Using your example, it would be the school forcing students like you to tutor students who are behind instead of it being voluntary.
I did it because the government axed the original program. I realized that I would be fine. My parents paid for my SAT tutors. I went to Switzerland to study French. My dad taught college grammar (I know it doesn't show in my posts...lol). I did those things because I felt that others shouldn't suffer due to the actions of the government trying to pay off Enron during the California energy crisis (a fake crisis that eventually led to the demise of fiscal responsibility in California...starting in the name of privatization). I felt it morally wrong that we don't have the same opportunities.
No, using my example it would as if there were tutors (which there used to be...since it was an inner city high school), but then the tutors were cut, thus the rich students are fine and the poor are left to fend for themselves.
Then where does all this silly talk about taxes being "punishment" come from?
Unfair policies/regulations that favor some interest over the public are blatantly unfair and seriously unbalances equality of opportunity for all who are not members of that particular interest. Granting favors to special interests is a specialty of the GOP and has been for some time now.
I'm not saying their are not unfair practices by government, I'm saying the left invents victims to justify expanding the size and cost of government. The voters on the left are like ignorant sheep, taking the bait and clambering for more taxes, bigger government, more debt, and fewer rights and freedoms.
If the top 5% pay 35% income tax rate, and the lower 50% pay a rate of 15% or less.... the left calls this "unfair", and the top 5% earners need to pay, pay and pay, to allow redistribution of wealth.
Fairness to the left is no discussion of the issues and the right going left to meet in the supposed middle.
We have our economy collapsing as we write this. We are flat busted and still right now the left will write like a bunch of ten year olds about wanting money that doesn't exist for their dream programs and unions.
You don't hear the left saying they are going to move right to meet in the middle with conservatives, despite in truth that if they don't we collapse as a country.
That makes me feel that many on the left either have the minds of obstinate children, are insane, or know better but want to ride this socialism into the ground no matter what to maintain power for as long as possible (with no care of the consequences).
Fairness depends upon the eye of the beholder. If rich people should pay more than poor people because they have more money, shouldn't people with great health insurance have to pay more to help those with less generous plans?
I'd love to see the response if it is mandated that govt and union workers with better than average insurance have to pay an income tax based on the value of their health plans (currently a family BC/BS plan costs over 20K a year) to help those without a generous plan get better coverage.
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I'm not saying their are not unfair practices by government, I'm saying the left invents victims to justify expanding the size and cost of government. The voters on the left are like ignorant sheep, taking the bait and clambering for more taxes, bigger government, more debt, and fewer rights and freedoms.
While the right invents bogeymen and 'doom & gloom' scenarios to channel funds to its owners.
There's a COMMIE! behind every bush! MORE defense spending!
Business is tough! MORE corporate welfare!
It's all the same crappy game and it's still the country/people on the losing team's bench.
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