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Old 02-23-2011, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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What exactly is the story here? This loser lied and came away with nothing. Walker said nothing that hasn't been said publicly. You pathetic liberals can't debate using facts so you resort to this crap, which fails anyways

At about 4:30 on tape, Walker admits to thinking about "planting trouble makers" within the crowd of protesters!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Z3a2pYGr7-k
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Reality
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Line item 16.896 in the "Budget " bill, who would that be for? Why would he be quick to take a call from "Koch"? Maybe this will explain the impact of that.

What’s at stake in Wisc: Public Assets No-Bid Give-Away to Koch brothers | COTO Report
He wasn't so quick to take a call from anyone, the guy had to call back a couple times and lie in order to get through. Now try again, what was said during this conversation that was incriminating or wrong?
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:38 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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He sure was willing to dance for his pimp, though. What an idiot you Repubs up in WI elected. Oh well, that's to be expected.
Hmmm... Who's the idiot - the guy who left at least a $14.5 billion deficit ($3.6 billion budget deficit plus $10.9 billion teacher pension system deficit), OR the guy who's taking the responsible road of trying to trim those deficits while also trying to encourage job growth in his state?

I'd say the first one was the idiot. Check his political affiliation.
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Hmmm... Who's the idiot - the guy who left at least a $14.5 billion deficit ($3.6 billion budget deficit plus $10.9 billion teacher pension system deficit), OR the guy who's taking the responsible road of trying to trim those deficits while also trying to encourage job growth in his state?

I'd say the first one was the idiot. Check his political affiliation.
I wonder how Walker is paying for all the television ads against unions lately.

Answer here
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:43 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Line item 16.896 in the "Budget " bill, who would that be for? Why would he be quick to take a call from "Koch"? Maybe this will explain the impact of that.

What’s at stake in Wisc: Public Assets No-Bid Give-Away to Koch brothers | COTO Report
You seem to have missed the accountability clause in that section. It states "any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state."

If the resulting actions are determined to be NOT in the best interest of the state, guess who's legally culpable?
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:47 PM
 
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You seem to have missed the accountability clause in that section. It states "any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state."

If the resulting actions are determined to be NOT in the best interest of the state, guess who's legally culpable?
"Not in the best interest of the state" is subjective and wide open to interpretation, don't you think?
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:51 PM
 
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I wonder how Walker is paying for all the television ads against unions lately.

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What do the ads say? And aren't they just in response to the ads the unions ran first? Why should Walker sit back and let the unions lie?
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Old 02-23-2011, 04:53 PM
 
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"Not in the best interest of the state" is subjective and wide open to interpretation, don't you think?
No, I don't. Why wouldn't millions of state taxpayers hold the state accountable, just like they're trying to get the parasitic public unions off their backs?
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Old 02-23-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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You seem to have missed the accountability clause in that section. It states "any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state."

If the resulting actions are determined to be NOT in the best interest of the state, guess who's legally culpable?
Who is the Department? Dept of Admin, aka Govs Office.
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Old 02-23-2011, 05:27 PM
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Again ... negotiate with what? Doyle left Walker a $3.6 billion budget deficit and a $10.9 billion deficit in the teachers' pension system alone.
Wisconsin pension funding for teachers falls $10.9 billion short, report says - JSOnline
The $3.6 billion dollar figure is simply a lie so it's not surprising that you didn't provide a link. The actual figure is a LOT lower than that, though the exact amount depends on how it's calculated. And it wouldn't be nearly as bad if not for the tax cuts for the rich that Walker pushed through.

Is the state budget really in crisis? Depends who you ask

As for the pension deficit, that's the case in most (maybe all) states following the stock market crash. They were doing fine before then. And we can debate the cause of the crash, anyone with an IQ above a dead fish knows the cause (hint: initials GWB).
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