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Old 01-17-2011, 12:15 AM
 
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Only 1 in 4 Americans supports repeal of health care law
What specifically about the new health care law is appealing to the 3 out of 4 who like it?
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:24 AM
 
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Only about 1 in 4 respondents said they wanted to do away with the law completely.
LOL... that's hardly an endorsement.
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:26 AM
 
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What specifically about the new health care law is appealing to the 3 out of 4 who like it?
No living in fear of being without health insurance because of preexisting conditions or having policy cancelled in the middle of an illness, for starters. Doesn't concern me, b/c I'm healthy as a horse and on Medicare, but for many, it is a huge worry.

Also with the economy and so many unemployed, the ability to keep children on parents policy until age 26 is a factor.

I continually read of families who are faced with annual premiums of $16,000/year for coverage if they need to purchase it on their own. For one farm family I read of, the cost would be $25,000/year because of a preexisting heart condition for the father.

Who can afford that? That figure absolutely blows my mind.

Also, in the future, fewer and fewer employers will be offering health insurance and, if they do, it will become increasingly more expensive. Higher premiums, deductibles, co-insurance and co-pays.
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:27 AM
 
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"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it.” - Thomas Sowell
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:36 AM
 
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"It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it.” - Thomas Sowell
Our system is corrupt. The entire medical system should be not for profit. This is a moral and human welfare issue. Profit should not be an incentive here.
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:39 AM
 
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Our system is corrupt. The entire medical system should be not for profit. This is a moral and human welfare issue. Profit should not be an incentive here.
So instead of profit you base it on slavery. Got it. Makes sense when speaking of morals and human welfare.
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:40 AM
 
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Or should the answer be - if you can afford it, you get healthcare. Otherwise you suffer and die. That philosophy will eliminate about 30-40% of the people in this country. Like Scrooge has said "Good, let them die, then, and decrease the surplus population."
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:51 AM
 
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No living in fear of being without health insurance because of preexisting conditions
I know this often trumpeted as good part of the bill but the fact is it's irrelevant because of the mandate. You're going to have three main categories of people that do not have insurance now, a)people that can't get it because of previous health issues, b)people that can't afford it and c)people that could probably afford it but take the risk because they are unlikely to need it. The b and c group are closely related and you're going to have overlap, it's the cost that is the major factor here.

If these people can't afford insurance now what makes you think they could because the law says they need to purchase it?



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or having policy cancelled in the middle of an illness, for starters.
I don't think you'll find anyone to disagree with a law that requires an insurance company to continue coverage when you get sick, it is after all the reason you purchase insurance.



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Who can afford that? That figure absolutely blows my mind.
Very few people could afford it which is why we need legislation that attacks the fundamental issue which is the costs. The current law doesn't do that....
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Old 01-17-2011, 12:57 AM
 
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Very few people could afford it which is why we need legislation that attacks the fundamental issue which is the costs. The current law doesn't do that....
Oh, I agree, it was a sell-out to the insurance industry and for-profit medical consortiums. The lobbyists win again.

But it seems the loudest opponents are those who want things to remain the same. What is their solution?

As you have said, the cost is unmanageable for most. If employers move away from providing health care, tax credits will not solve that problem, with $15,000-$25,000/year premiums.

So, what are we to do?
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Old 01-17-2011, 01:04 AM
 
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But it seems the loudest opponents are those who want things to remain the same. What is their solution?
Free market. Which means getting rid of all the laws and bureaucracies instead of increasing them. But with the attitude that "profit is bad" a lot of people seem to have for some reason the politicians can just legislate about anything they want under the pretense of health care reform.
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