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That is because they would rather spend their money on smokes, booze, drugs, or paying for that really big house or fancy car that isn't a necessity. People need to set their priorities straight and live within their means. Not my problem if they can't balance a budget
That is because they would rather spend their money on smokes, booze, drugs, or paying for that really big house or fancy car that isn't a necessity. People need to set their priorities straight and live within their means. Not my problem if they can't balance a budget
What if their heating costs are just more than they can afford even with responsible budgeting? Why should they be forced to keep the thermostat at a lower level when "rich fat cats" who "have more money than they know what to do with" can keep their thermostats at a higher temp?
What if their heating costs are just more than they can afford even with responsible budgeting? Why should they be forced to keep the thermostat at a lower level when "rich fat cats" who "have more money than they know what to do with" can keep their thermostats at a higher temp?
Survival of the fittest- let's just leave it at that
Funny how I don't see a lot of libs on here backing this idea. I would have thought the same libs that think a national health care plan would be all over this one.
Funny how I don't see a lot of libs on here backing this idea. I would have thought the same libs that think a national health care plan would be all over this one.
While I was reluctant to enter into this sad little echo chamber, I couldn't resist.
You see no difference between "nationalized utilities" and "nationalized healthcare?"
In one, (utilities) consumption amount is controlled by the end user at whim and for personal comfort.
With respect to healthcare, use of the system can be, but is usually not, determined by personal choice or behaviors. People get sick of no fault of their own all the time, and often against all precautions taken. But, then again, your analogy fails because even the very idea of private health insurance is based on socialized risk to begin with. You pay the same as most others in your insurance pool. Especially if its employer sponsored.
I mean, I would say "nice try" if it really was a valid analogy, but it's not. I think the more apropos analogy to nationalized healthcare is nationalized transportation networks, such as interstate highways. But I bet the conservatives on this board don't mind taking advantage of that bit of socialism, even though countless people DON'T use the interstate highway system.
While I was reluctant to enter into this sad little echo chamber, I couldn't resist.
You see no difference between "nationalized utilities" and "nationalized healthcare?"
In one, (utilities) consumption amount is controlled by the end user at whim and for personal comfort.
With respect to healthcare, use of the system can be, but is usually not, determined by personal choice or behaviors. People get sick of no fault of their own all the time, and often against all precautions taken. But, then again, your analogy fails because even the very idea of private health insurance is based on socialized risk to begin with. You pay the same as most others in your insurance pool. Especially if its employer sponsored.
You don't think the amount of healthcare a person needs/wants is based on personal choices and desire? Really? I personally know someone that worked hard his whole life, accepted aches and pains, never saw a dentist, and had bad eyes. As soon as he got on Medicare he went to the doc, got an expensive ankle brace, got his teeth fixed, and now goes every time he gets the sniffles.
You don't think people will use the doctor more if it's free?
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I mean, I would say "nice try" if it really was a valid analogy, but it's not. I think the more apropos analogy to nationalized healthcare is nationalized transportation networks, such as interstate highways. But I bet the conservatives on this board don't mind taking advantage of that bit of socialism, even though countless people DON'T use the interstate highway system.
Actually, public infrastructure is what government is for. The interstate system benefits interstate commerce.
You don't think the amount of healthcare a person needs/wants is based on personal choices and desire? Really? I personally know someone that worked hard his whole life, accepted aches and pains, never saw a dentist, and had bad eyes. As soon as he got on Medicare he went to the doc, got an expensive ankle brace, got his teeth fixed, and now goes every time he gets the sniffles.
You don't think people will use the doctor more if it's free?
Actually, public infrastructure is what government is for. The interstate system benefits interstate commerce.
And if your 'friend' had gone to the doctor when necessary and taken care of the aches, pains, tooth issues etc. when they were little problems they probably would have cost a lot less over the course of his life. Instead, he waited and now it costs MORE.
I think the more apropos analogy to nationalized healthcare is nationalized transportation networks, such as interstate highways. But I bet the conservatives on this board don't mind taking advantage of that bit of socialism, even though countless people DON'T use the interstate highway system.
The interstate system is vital part of our national defense and was one of the primary reasons for building it. Matter of fact the seeds for it started in Germany as the US military realized how effective the autobahn was for transporting troops.
And if your 'friend' had gone to the doctor when necessary and taken care of the aches, pains, tooth issues etc. when they were little problems they probably would have cost a lot less over the course of his life. Instead, he waited and now it costs MORE.
See how that works?
The point though, is that he is now going for every sniffle, and cough he gets. He was willing to just put up with it before when he had to pay for it himself.
If you open up "free" care to everyone, there will not be enough docs to handle everyone.
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